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Title: turks tarantula.
Post by: flyboy on July 15, 2009, 04:55:44 PM
 hello folks. can anyone put me in the direction of a turks tarantula supplier, ive been looking online to buy a few but i have been unable with the exception of fliesonline, which for some reason freezes my computer the minute i open the page with the flies on it.
are these flies fished in the same manner as a mini muddler or have people been fishing them as dries?????????
regards brian
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: 3 weight on July 23, 2009, 04:36:35 PM
Its a very versatile fly, one night paulr and I were out on a loch he fished it static and I retrieved pretty quickly, it fished almost like a popper, both methods caught plenty fish.
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: flyboy on July 23, 2009, 10:41:10 PM
thanks 3 weight, i was just about to post and ask how these are best fished on a loch as my first few came through the post this morning.
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: paulr on July 24, 2009, 03:04:52 PM
Funny you should mention pike Truescot. I'm flyfishing for pike on a loch up north this Sunday and was planning on having a go with a tarantula  :) They should just be like a popper for catching wee jacks.
I'll let you know how it goes.
We should see how many species we can catch on the Tarantula
as far as I know it's just trout and mackerel so far.

cheers

Paul
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: paulr on July 24, 2009, 03:52:18 PM
Thanks Truescot.
Hope the legend lures some of those big trout for you at the weekend.

cheers

Paul
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Malcolm on July 24, 2009, 06:38:01 PM
I've got a couple of real monsters tied up for night sea trout fishing - no success so far with them - but little success with anything so far this season so case unproven
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: paulr on July 26, 2009, 03:06:57 PM
I wouldn't blame yourself for missing takes to the TT Truescot. Fish quite often just splash at them. They're worth persevering with though  :D
Afraid I won't have the chance to test them on the pike this weekend.
cheers
Paul
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: paulr on July 26, 2009, 07:30:57 PM
I honestly don't think size and colour matter too much! It's just the overall appearance of a huge tasty insect.
The ones I've been having success with have a yellow body and are sizes 10 and 12.
cheers
Paul
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Pointy Shadow on July 26, 2009, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: TrueScot on July 26, 2009, 03:44:47 PM
Definitely will be trying the TT at night/just before dark.  On another dam of ours where the fish are much bigger i am sure the wake/disturbance the TT makes in the water will attract them.  We also have a small dam with Pike in it so we shall see soon if they like the TT. 

Im right up for a venture to the big fish water this week TrueScot. :)

Heard so much about the size of fish in there and want to try it out for myself :) Will need to go up Sprat dam too im afraid as I am desperate to break my blanking masterclass that I have been having recently. :(
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Pointy Shadow on July 28, 2009, 08:51:11 PM
TBH I thought you lobbed a brick in the water with the splash it made as it sounded like a slab had landed on it. I turned round to see where it was and there was no doubt that you couldnt sling something that far so there must be monsters in there.

Roll on next Friday for an after dark session on there.

Note to oneself - if in doubt take waterproofs.  :x

Hope its ok to post a pic from last night as the sky was something else when the sun was setting. :)

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5967/27072009348.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/27072009348.jpg/)
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: River Chatter on July 29, 2009, 11:45:41 AM
I finally caved last night and tied up a couple of TTs... I'm so bloody easily influenced!  :? Anyway, I wanted to ask, how do you guys get the rubber legs to sit correctly? My efforts are ok-ish, but a bit untidy looking cos the legs aren't sitting right... I do like a tidy fly box! Any hints appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Ian_M on July 30, 2009, 06:40:49 PM
I was having the same problem with the legs RC and then I remembered something I posted ages ago.  I now tie the tail, rib, wing and then attach the legs.  At this point I use a piece of drinking straw to protect and hide the dressing while I spin the deer hair for the head. Once the fly is complete I trim the head with the straw still in place as this makes things much easier.  You can push and hold hold the straw back towards the eye and the hairs stands up ready for the scissors.

Link to original post ...

http://www.wildfisher.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2886.msg21506#msg21506

Hope this helps.

p.s. I now split the straw along its entire length which makes it easier to remove.
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Wildfisher on July 30, 2009, 06:56:09 PM
3 good reasons to  persevere  with the TT.

As Haresear  says if you fish 'average' most of the time you will catch 'average'.


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Just remember to fish C+R!

Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Wildfisher on July 30, 2009, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: claretbumble on July 30, 2009, 06:59:18 PM
Or am I missing the point of the post?

yes, but at least  you are consistent.
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: haresear on July 31, 2009, 12:22:35 AM
Well...not exactly a 3 to the pound water Claretbumble but not exactly NZ either... http://www.wildfisher.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8544.0 - If you know of any waters in NZ or anywhere else for that matter where seven pounders are "average" then please, pass it on :)

Why not try  a TT and see what happens? Paulr did on Rannoch moor with rather decent results :D

The TT and the big ants are not silver bullets, just something else to try. I like to try them when nothing else is working. That way I'm not too surprised when I catch nothing :)


Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: superscot on July 31, 2009, 12:36:55 AM
well we plan to try them in a few weeks on the Polly lochs ...
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Wildfisher on July 31, 2009, 10:47:19 AM
Quote from: haresear on July 31, 2009, 12:22:35 AM
Why not try  a TT and see what happens? Paulr did on Rannoch moor with rather decent results :D

Exactly.If you fish for bandies  most of the time that's exactly what you'll catch.
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: River Chatter on July 31, 2009, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Ian_M on July 30, 2009, 06:40:49 PM
I was having the same problem with the legs RC and then I remembered something I posted ages ago.  I now tie the tail, rib, wing and then attach the legs.  At this point I use a piece of drinking straw to protect and hide the dressing while I spin the deer hair for the head. Once the fly is complete I trim the head with the straw still in place as this makes things much easier.  You can push and hold hold the straw back towards the eye and the hairs stands up ready for the scissors.

Link to original post ...

http://www.wildfisher.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2886.msg21506#msg21506

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the drinking straw tip Ian (I'd forgot about that wee trick) but cutting the deer hair isn't really my problem. Aftern spinning the deer hair it causes the rubber legs to move and it's difficult for me to manipulate them after the hair's been cut to make them sit at a pleasing angle like the pics that have been posted on this site. I'm just being ham fisted I suppost!  :(
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Ian_M on July 31, 2009, 12:07:11 PM
Hi RC,

Maybe I should explain a bit better. I tie the legs on before I add any deer hair and secure them with several turns of thread.  To hide this you could add a little more dubbing between the legs if you like.  When you hold everything back with the straw and spin the deer hair on to a bare hook shank the legs are not moved during this process.  I found that the legs tended to spin round the shank a bit when I was tying the deer hair in. Works for me   :D
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: River Chatter on July 31, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
Oh! ...hang on a mo, aren't the rubber legs tied thru the deer hair on a TT rather than on the dubbed body?
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Ian_M on July 31, 2009, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: River Chatter on July 31, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
Oh! ...hang on a mo, aren't the rubber legs tied thru the deer hair on a TT rather than on the dubbed body?

Yes, normally tied after the first spin of deer hair.  I tie them after the body and it makes life easier.

See (for conventional tying)  ...

http://www.mffa.org/turkstarantula.htm

Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Wildfisher on July 31, 2009, 07:03:24 PM
Actually this is the correct dressing with the deer hair collar that helps prevent the fly spinning  when you cast it.

http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/print.cfm?parentID=10


Like  this tier I use a bit of lead wire to hold everything back while spinning  the head

Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Ian_M on July 31, 2009, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: admin on July 31, 2009, 07:03:24 PM
Actually this is the correct dressing with the deer hair collar that helps prevent the fly spinning  when you cast it.

http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/print.cfm?parentID=10


Like  this tier I use a bit of lead wire to hold everything back while spinning  the head



Thanks for that link.  I do like the lead wire tip.
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Wildfisher on July 31, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Nae bother Ian. It looks bit of a pain to tie but as you know it's dead easy.
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Ian_M on July 31, 2009, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: admin on July 31, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Nae bother Ian. It looks bit of a pain to tie but as you know it's dead easy.

I have only tied 4 or 5, or should say had 4 or 5 attempts at this fly.  It's a bu***r to tie but I will persevere. I do find that holding back the dressing by whatever method helps a great deal. 
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Wildfisher on July 31, 2009, 11:05:03 PM
Quote from: col on July 31, 2009, 07:30:18 PM
ive had a wee bit success sorting the unruly legs by spinning an extra pinch of  deerhair between front and hind leg .

Once the legs are on try  a turn or two of thread very  lightly dubbed with hare fur or similar between each pair.  
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: paulr on August 01, 2009, 10:13:48 PM
I can't be bothered spinning deer hair so have come up with some tarantulas using foam instead of the muddler head.
I'm hoping they'll be ok for line twist as they are a very similar profile to the original pattern.You don't have to worry about the legs sitting wrong, or chopping them off as they are the added at the very end.
Didn't bother with the pheasant tippet tails, I don't see how they can make much difference to the attractiveness of the fly to trout.Anyone disagree?

Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: haresear on August 02, 2009, 01:59:11 AM
Paul, it looks like you have tied the foam in underneath the shank and slit a hole for the eye to protrude through? Looks good to me.

Alex
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: paulr on August 02, 2009, 11:20:03 AM
Aye thats exactly what I did Alex.
They'll be getting a fly and a swim this afternoon.
cheers
Paul
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Fishtales on August 03, 2009, 10:07:59 AM
The fly pales in comparison to the real food of trout :)

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/790474
Title: Re: turks tarantula.
Post by: Fishtales on August 03, 2009, 06:33:18 PM
I would have :) Then again my whole family think I'm a minger   except my two grandchildren but they are too young to know any better :)