After laying out the princely sum of ?2.73 for an assortment of fly tying bits and bobs in an ebay auction I'm champing at the bit for it to arrive so I can introduce myself to this dark art.
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I'm sure that half the stuff will turn out to be nae use but it should at least let me have a go and see if I can make anything of it. I've been trawling around the fly tying section and following some of the links provided - you all make it look so easy but I'm damned sure its not!
So, where should an absolute novice start? Are there any patterns that I should try or am I better to just play around with hooks and thread and fur and feathers to see if I can manage some of the basic skills needed? Any advice gratefully accepted.
I have a cheek to give advice, as I'm sure any real tyers who have seen my motley collection will agree.
I would try something palmered like a Zulu. You are likely to have all the ingredients...and it catches fish. It will teach you proportion, hackling and ribbing. Black pennel would be another good option if there are pheasant tippets in the kit. If not, just tie a black spider.
Just read bordertroot's reply. Great minds think alike :)
Alex
Best thing to do is find someone who ties flies locally & ask for help. If you are near a fly dressers guild thats as good a place as any. Otherwise there are some good step by steps on the forum. If I could suggest one starting point it would be to practice how to whip finish till you can almost do it in your sleep, that way you can finish a fly well without tears and without it falling to bits.
Peter
Some good advice there Guddler. Have a go, fly tying is not rocket science, anyone can do it, and while we won't all become Davie McPhails once the basics are under your belt you will be able to tie just about anything. IMO fly tying is part of being a successful fly fisher.
I'd add basic buzzers (thread wire body and peacock herl thorax) and copper wire pheasant tail nymphs to the beginners list. You'll be able to tie quite a few at very low cost and see your progress in terms of proportion, ribbing and finishing improving as you go. You can always strip the fluff from your early efforts too and re-use the hooks to save cash. Good luck and don't be upset if your first efforts aren't pleasing to the eye, it takes a wee while. The trout won't mind anyway. :)
I certainly do not attain the standards of other forum members, so I'll refrain from actual tying tips.
Some general thoughts.
A well lit area- I use an old anglepoise lamp.
A white card set up behind the hook will help you see the details- and the errors!.
An old shoe box on your lap will catch most of the trimmings and avoid domestic disputes.
Thanks guys - this is just the sort of stuff I was hoping for. Hopefully it will cut out a few of the pitfalls for me along the way.
I was pretty surprised to pay only a pittance for the tying gear- I did bid far more than that but got it for a song. Still, it hasn't arrived yet so it may be no bargain at all if it's left stranded in a Royal Mail depot somewhere in Middle England. :lol:
I think I'm too set on the idea now and I'd have to go ahead and kit myself out even if this doesn't turn up.
An old mate from my schooldays is a tyer of some repute in these parts so I'll look him up and see if he can help out with a lesson over the winter.
Once you learn the basics there will be no stopping you!
Don't feel that you have to stick to recognised patterns either,nothing is set in stone.Just experiment and tie whatever you think will catch fish in your area.
Oh aye- and this hobby will cost you a fortune!! :)
cheers
Paul
Remember - no matter how scruffy your flies are they will catch fish. So assuming you are tying flies for fishing rather than art, don't get too caught up making sure everything is "just so".
Unkempt flies are better fish catchers than perfect examples of the fly dressers art in my humble view. :crap
Quote from: piscatus absentis on October 28, 2009, 07:21:42 PM
If anyone looks at your box the scruffy ones were given to you by Fred, Alex, Malcolm or whoever. The best ones are your own.
There's many a true word spoken in jest...
Alex
Quote from: wildhibroon on October 28, 2009, 07:24:17 PM
Steve, I have used mothballs with no problems in many years - have I been lucky? What's the best mite-preventer please?
Balls wildhibroon cedar wood balls. :D I've been using them and had no problems and a pleasant smell so SWMBO isn't nagging about the smell of mothballs. :)
Ian
Aw buggrit PA I'm going to have to go through my swap flies now and retie them.
Thanks everybody for all the advice and the generous offers of tying materials. I got my "kit" yesterday and much as expected it was fairly humble. There are quite a few useful bits and materials but most of the feathers were disintegrating. I just had a go with what was there and followed Scotfly's Black and Peacock video substituting black yarn and dyed brown mallard feathers instead :lol:
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Great big nymph hook in a size 10, hackles too long, don't care, chuffed to bits, canna wait till next season!
Looks great Guddler - well done - that will most certainly catch.
Nice.
There are only two types of fly that are worth anything-
a) pretty ones in the box
b) ones with a trout attached
Quote from: Guddler on October 31, 2009, 06:35:02 PM
Great big nymph hook in a size 10, hackles too long,
You're wrong, the hackle is perfect; body looks to have a nice taper to it and you've managed a small, very neat head.
Quote from: Guddler on October 31, 2009, 06:35:02 PM
chuffed to bits,
So you should be.
Well done Guddler. I don't think I've ever seen a better "first ever fly!"
Quote from: scotfly on October 31, 2009, 08:15:23 PM
Well done Guddler. I don't think I've ever seen a better "first ever fly!"
Coming from our resident maestro Dennis that's praise indeed Guddler. :D
Aw gee shucks - you've got me all embarassed now. :oops: :oops: :oops:
It's certainly cheered up my weekend of nightshifts. :lol:
All I did was follow the advice folk gave:
"Start with a Spider"
"Use a large hook"
"Experiment with what you've got"
"Practice your whip finish"
"Don't use too much thread or dubbing"
"Have a go"
and, of course, Scotfly's excellent video clips.
I'll be dreaming of bandies on my own flees all day tomorrow!
Well done on your first fly Guddler, especially since it usually doesn't work out very well your first time (ahem). The proportions look good to me too - I'm looking forward to seeing your others as you progress onto more complicated patterns. :)
Thats a great fly Guddler and I'm sure will catch you fish. As a novice tyer myself the thing I found most helpful was the same as Bandy Catchers advice; get the patterns for your favorite half dozen flies and then get the materials you need to tie them. I always found it frustrating not having all the materials for a pattern and, although variants can work, I found it better for my confidence to know I was using all the right materials. I also found tying in batches of three helped with getting a wee bit of consistency - and when the trout are boiling at you killer home tied fly you want to make sure you have a few spare :)
Quote from: scotfly on October 31, 2009, 08:15:23 PM
Well done Guddler. I don't think I've ever seen a better "first ever fly!"
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Must have been some chance alignment of the planets - everything I've tried to do since looks like it has been chewed by a dug. (or would possibly be improved by chewing)
Looks like I'm not going to be a freakishly gifted, natural tyer of flees after all. Damn.