The Wild Fishing Forum

Open Forums => Open Boards Viewable By Guests => Flies And Tying => Topic started by: Wildfisher on July 31, 2005, 06:28:49 PM

Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Wildfisher on July 31, 2005, 06:28:49 PM
Looking through the recent posts on this site,  the most mentioned and used fly right now seems to be the Green tailed Kate McLaren.

So my question is this. Is it mainly successful because   everyone uses it? When we were on the Badanloch  earlier  this month the keeper suggested that most anglers think Loch Rimsdale has the better fish. So everyone goes there and catches the better fish. Self fulfilling prophesy or fact?  Same with Kate,  is she  really any better than a bibio? Remember they also come in multi-flavours, green centre, yellow centre???? Does Kate catch just because she gets used more often?  Is Kate just the current fashion? Will her popularity wane and will she be replaced  by a more fashionable,better looking , youngster in the next few years?  Is old Kate in her bright green skirt  just mutton dressed up as lamb? :lol:
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: David on August 02, 2005, 02:46:33 PM
How is the Green Tailed Kate tied?  Do you go to the effort of getting (or creating) dyed tippets or is it just green floss?

Cheers
David
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: lnelson20 on August 02, 2005, 04:14:30 PM
Interesting comment Swithun,do believe this is an excellent fly as is the original :D but do believe your absolutely correct,a bit of both really would be my theory,and do believe it's glowbrite 11 flourescent floss :D
All the best
Chris.
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: lnelson20 on August 02, 2005, 05:09:33 PM
Quote from: lnelson20Interesting comment Swithun,do believe this is an excellent fly as is the original :D but do believe your absolutely correct,a bit of both really would be my theory,and do believe it's glowbrite 11 flourescent floss :D
All the best
Chris.
Sorry Swithun,thought this was your post,not admin's. :shock:
All the best
Chris.
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: wullie on August 03, 2005, 12:11:59 AM
I last fished Badenloch 12 years ago. rimsdale, nan clar? etc and the keeper then told me to fish a fly with a green tail, black and bushy. We caught fish.
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Sodger Muddler on January 08, 2006, 06:26:20 PM
I have fished a Green Arsed Zulu double on the point  before and got fish,Never even seen a green arsed Katey .
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Sodger Muddler on January 09, 2006, 09:33:14 AM
I have seen the pattern you are talking about Alan ,however my tying has  JC cheeks and a broad silver rib.
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Sodger Muddler on January 09, 2006, 09:58:15 PM
He he  stockie basher  :lol: ,I have used mine  on the Donegal loughs and it has worked fine for broonies.
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: beaniboy67 on January 11, 2006, 03:23:21 PM
QuoteI would tend to agree wi Allan that the glowbrite can be attached as a tail to many different flees and have great success, however i recall over hearing a conversation in Orkney at the Merchister hotel some years ago where Mr Kemp fae Heddle n Kemp fame (ke He) was totaly outraged with anglers/flytiers who dared change the original pattern that THEY had created, the KeHe according to him should stay as the original or it was not a KeHE
Maybe his age had something to do with it but i never challenged him, but perhaps now that we are discussing variants we should try the KeHe with a bit o glowbrite.
Could be very interesting reading at the end o 2006 season
what you lot say !!!!  
i have been using ke he variants for years.

an orange one is good
use globrite #(bright orange canane mind  the number) also with the tippet as tail

peacock body as usual(twist it like rope  it lasts longer)

and use brown hen as the head hackle!

i had a day on lochan na bi near tyndrum and took between 10 and 15 grown on brownies with it!

ive also had fish on it at the borrolan!
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Wildfisher on January 11, 2006, 03:33:15 PM
Really must start using the old KeHe again. Have not soaked one for a long time. Damned good fly too as I recall.  :)
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Sodger Muddler on January 11, 2006, 04:26:06 PM
I fish the Ke-He fairly often and it has had a good catch rate if not startling,i always fish it in the middle don't know why but i prefer a flashy fly on the tail and a bushy fly on the bob.
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Wildfisher on January 15, 2006, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: SwithunOK - here you go.  This is what you can get when you mix a 7 year old girl with a fly tying Dad.

(http://wildfisher.co.uk/uploads/muppin-fly-2006Jan151137346194.jpg)

I've promised to try and catch something with it  :shock:   Now there's a challenge!

I think you have a good salmon fly there.
Title: How Long Dear Kate?
Post by: Wildfisher on January 15, 2006, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: zeolitesea-trout estuary fly methinks

Yes, that?s probably better. A sand eel!