Silver, red and black, a classic trout catching combo
It therefore has to be the teal wing
Come to think of it, I am hard pressed to think of any teal winged fly that catches many fish. :lol:
Quote from: zeoliteTeal, blue and silver takes many a sea-trout Fred!
sheesh! :D
Never! It's well known that's a myth that originated in teal farms. :lol:
The ross ain't a bad fly at all,just the person who's fishing it :lol:let's face it,a lot of loch's we fish have numerous suicidal broonies that take almost anything that land's in the water,and if your no fishin it,you don't catch with it,again just a confidence thing :D
All the best
Chris.
Funny you should say that Chris, only fish I have ever caught on teal winged flies have been bandies on lochs like Meadie in Caithness.
Must admit to not fishing it much myself Fred,but one day spring's to mind on loch Maragan,managed to catch three better than average fish from this water on the ross,horses for courses i suppose,and every fly has it's day,would hardly be my first choice at the water's edge though,have to fish it more this season and see how it goes :D
All the best
Chris.
Quote from: zeoliteQuoteNever! It's well known that's a myth that originated in teal farms.
Posted: Today, at 11:05 am
No myth Fred. I have caught a few myself on a T B and S. i have also caught sea-trout on a Peter Ross.
More unbelievably I have caught wild broonies (in a bow stocked pond) on a STANDARD Diawl bach (self tied). They ignored my pals blobs and dancers though.
Don't know about a teal farm but it will be the funny farm for you Fred if you keep this forum acrimony up. just cos you lost the argument with Malky........
No acrimony Ian, just some folk take things far too seriously. or perhaps have no sense of humour! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: shielfisherAhhh the dear old Peter Ross, how I hate it. It might have something to do with the fact then when I was younger I tied many many flies for an estate and they always put in an order for 10 dozen of the blighters :shock: There's no doubt it catches fish - let's face it flies like Ken Sinfoils fry is arguably a derivative of the Peter Ross (and it's possibly a better "catcher" of fish :wink: ) but it's never found favour with me, even for sea trout (when there were Sea Trout to be caught over on the West Coast).
Essentially the Peter Ross has everything going for it, looks right and has all the "trigger" components but I'm pretty sure I can count on one hand how many fish I've caught on it. But, it is popular and as long as folk fish it then it will catch fish - kind of like the Allys Shrimp, if everyone fishes it, it's bound to catch and figure in returns.
As for the teal series of flies I like, and still fish, the teal and green. A great fly which I have faith in - maybe I just should try the Peter Ross again :?: Errrrrr, NO :lol:
Hamish, I think Chris hit the nail on square the head. It?s a confidence thing. I have been fishing on and off since the ?60s and the peter Ross and other teal winged flies have been the least successful I have used. Of course, if you don?t use them you won?t catch on them, but when you ask a fellow angler that timeless question ?what did you catch it on? ? how often do you hear the words 'Peter Ross'? It?s an odd thing the favourite pattern, no matter how attached one might become to a fly, how many fish you catch on it, you don?t have to look far to find someone who does not. Take the Silver Invicta for example. One of my most successful flies, but John, who fishes at the other end of the boat, seldom uses it as he has not found it very successful. It?s odd and it must come down to confidence.
And of course, teal wings :lol:
Quote from: Bandy CatcherThere's no doubt it's a confidence thing. As you mention Fred, I have little confidence in the Silver Invicta, it just doesn't seem to work for me at all.
I'm going to add the Peter Ross, Diawl Bach and Silver Invicta to the fly swap flies, as flies I must catch on this season.
My poor wee Pearly Black Pennels are going to get roosty in my box, for a change this season!
John
The Peter Ross should work I am going to tie up some and replace that teal wing with hen pheasant or black crow and see how it works. They say the barred teal represents a fish. That may be, but I have yet to see a mackerel in Loch na Bo :lol:
The Peter Ross seems to have quite a debate on this site.Almost unknown for other flies.Never tried it yet,but a friend swears by it and the Dunkeld.
Never caught anything on a Peter Ross but again I don't fish it very often,
" Only when I'm struggling to touch fish"(obviously not very often :lol: )
It must be a confidence thing, I have caught a few fish on the Dunkeld but don't fish it often!!!???### Will try the Peter Ross more often and let you know
It is definitely a confidence thing. For me the Peter Ross has always been a grand fly fished on the middle dropper early season between a Blae and Black on the tail and a Kate Mclaren on the top dropper. From March to around the middle of May that's my first choice trio, from mid-May onwards the P. Ross seems to be less reliable and I then have the B&B in the middle and either a Butcher or a double Alexandra on the tail. On the point about confidence, I have never caught a trout, stocked, wild or jumpin' mad on a Soldier Palmer, Zulu or Green-tailed Kate despite having given all three more than a fair go over the years. Last season one of the top flies at Harperrig from mid-April to mid-June was the Golden Olive Bumble, yet despite giving it many chances to prove it's worth I failed spectacularly to attract a single fish to it. Another two patterns which seem to be less popular nowadays are the Grouse & Claret and Mallard & Claret yet they are time-honoured killers; sadly, they have never proved so for me.
Anyway, tightstring and hopefully this season will be a good one for all the forum members, whatever flies you use and wherever you wet your lines,
Greenwell. :D
cheeky fecker :lol: bow-leggit auld wimmin catcher
It's funny how quickly you can go off someone!!
You could always go back and edit it :)
Or use this and just right click before you send anything, works on all sites not just this one.
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I got fed up not catching on the Peter Ross and modified it a wee bit :D
Hook - B110 Grub
Thread - Black
Body - Silver tinsel
Rib - Silver wire
Hackle - Black Palmered
Thorax - Bright red seals fur
Head hackle - Grizzle or Badger
Cheeks (Optional) - Jungle Cock.
This flee works a treat on the middle dropper lads.
Tightlines.
The version i use hasnae got a wing and has just got the black hackle as im sh**e at tying wings in.
Cheers
Robbie
Well, it's been a lively debate.I think I am going to try the Peter Ross this season and see how it fares for me. :twisted:
It's a brilliant flee! Caught me more September loch leven broonies than anything else - sometimes I use two on my cast at the same time. It's one of only half a dozen traditional wets that are in my fly box. Doesn't work for me in any size larger than 14, 16 is best (good in an evening buzzer hatch too when they're taking below the surface).
QuoteIt's a brilliant flee! Caught me more September loch leven broonies than anything else - sometimes I use two on my cast at the same time. It's one of only half a dozen traditional wets that are in my fly box. Doesn't work for me in any size larger than 14, 16 is best (good in an evening buzzer hatch too when they're taking below the surface).
Malcolm well said .....stand by it all the time ....a photo to prove !
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It's like trying to get oot of jail on this forum .... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:but will say Ardbeg ...the wee troots out that loch really marked up really well ...some of the Sionascaig ones really dark .....well fed and plump ....
Quote from: crocach on September 14, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
Looks like it took someone two years to catch a troot with a Peter Ross
not only that, he was out everyday, summer and winter :D
One for the unbelievers out there.
A wee variant if mine that has taken a few fish.
Apologies if I have shown it before.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f233/Algie123/peteross.jpg)
Noo bad tied fly other than the wing which could have been a bit better, apart from that proportion is about right for a Wet Fly. Rear third is Veniard pearl tinsel, body & hackle is orange Seal fur & orange hen respectively. Originaly tied it for a guy in the States for Sea Ron Cutts but has caught a few fish including Sea Trout on home waters.
Tight Lines
Took one out my box for a day in Orkney to try :(, lived up to its reputation - back to my normal choices now. It seems right and it should catch - I'm begining to think its the way I retrieve the fly that might be the problem? - I just tend to use it with the standard pulling method. I was intrigued with its success when the fish are on the evening midge hatch :? - may have to give it another outing in those conditions.
Sandy B.O.
In fairness I don't tend to fish wets that don't look 'buggy' to my eyes....eg I tend to fish the likes of black pennels, dabblers, black spiders and various dark palmered patterns that look vaguely midge-like. The again how do whe know what the troot see??
Sandy, the Peter Ross is one of those flies that respond to a rather erratic retrieve, sort of slow slow quick quick slow. Shades of ballroom dancing. Whilst many disdain this fly, a few myself included find it useful on occasion. It is without doubt a tail fly & is good if fish are feeding on shrimp, why I have absolutely no idea as it looks nothing like a shrimp either in shape or colour but fish that are feeding on shrimp will take this fly. To me it is the sort of fly that whilst not a "fish killer" will maybe take the biggest of the day. Salmon & Sea Trout too succumb & it was very popular on the River Endrick when I fished it years back.
Try a standard but with an orange hackle instead of the more usual black for Broonies
Tight Lines
Thanks Highlander, I think I'll try using a more varied retrieve and the shrimp thing sounds interesting on a water I know full of them.
Sandy B.O.
I just noticed that this thread has been visited more than 2000 times. :shock:
Surely that makes Peter Ross a very popular chap indeed! :lol:
Alan
Quote from: alancrob on September 30, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
I just noticed that this thread has been visited more than 2000 times. :shock:
Surely that makes Peter Ross a very popular chap indeed! :lol:
Alan
new naw, it's just for the banter! :D
A bad workman always blames his tools.
:)
Tight Lines
Peter Ross does catch fish. Well, this one does... http://www.newzealand-flyfishing.com/gallery_pages/0506season/pages/opening%20weekend%20003.htm
:)Alex
Must be a distant relative. :lol:
Quote from: Ian_M on November 10, 2008, 10:59:24 PM
Must be a distant relative. :lol:
Aye Ian, I reckon Nelson would be about 12,000 miles distant :).
Alex