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Title: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Wildfisher on April 25, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
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Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Bobfly on April 25, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
Do you cast it or just "lob" it in   ???
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: hopper on April 25, 2017, 06:55:32 PM
They fish it under a bung and call it fly fishing
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: garryh on April 25, 2017, 09:19:32 PM
The death of fly tying .  :roll:

Garry

Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Inverguseran on April 25, 2017, 10:16:22 PM
Horrible to think some people could use it and think they are Fly Fishing :(
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Mark on April 25, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
I dont have a problem with it. It imitates a worm or at least triggers an aggressive response from the fish...Is it flyfishing? is short line nymphing without a flyline fly fishing? is czech nymphing flyfishing? etc etc. That could open up a real can of squirmies, one I'll leave other people to argue.
I found it absolute crap for wild fish, at least the handful of times i tried it while experimenting with flies. Graying certainly take it well at times tho.

To be honest Id much rather fish a worm upstream, its much more attractive to the trout and is also much more skillful in my opinion.
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Wildfisher on April 25, 2017, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: markirv on April 25, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
I dont have a problem with it. It imitates a worm or at least triggers an aggressive response from the fish

That's the way I look at it. It's just another artificial lure, no better or worse than any other tying. Enjoying fishing it is an altogether different matter.  I really don't enjoy fishing  heavy nymphs at all.
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Mark on April 25, 2017, 10:45:37 PM
Yes, I fish what is basically a walts worm. A gold bead and a bit of hares ear wound on a hook, doesnt imitate much but works well. Strange that there isnt the same reaction to this as there is with a gold bead and a piece of worm coloured rubber.

Im with you on heavy nymphing, OK in moderation but dredging the bottom soon becomes v boring.
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Wildfisher on April 25, 2017, 10:52:08 PM
It's a strange attitude. Some folk would happily cast this all day and call it fly fishing, yet look down on the squirmy or the San Juan Worm   :lol:   For me as long as the method / lure is legal I can't see problem.  Doesn't mean I'd want to use it myself but if others do I can't see the harm in it.

(http://taysalmonfly.co.uk/Assets/ProductImages/7fa984b1-c5df-4b61-977b-f29579ff5268.JPG)
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Mark on April 25, 2017, 10:58:50 PM
I think part of it must be down to the belief the guy with the squirmy is at an unfair advantage and its just not cricket!

Probably also because it looks like a worm and quite a lot of flyfishers look down there noses at anyone fishing bait (at times this includes me when I see a lazy get ledgering,  im ashamed to say)
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: sagecirca on April 26, 2017, 12:39:48 PM
Absolutely deadly pattern.  I fished a river in Poland last year and had to take it off my cast as literally every cast I was hitting trout after trout.  It was a Grayling only competition  :crap
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: corsican dave on April 26, 2017, 06:07:57 PM
Quote from: Inverguseran on April 25, 2017, 10:16:22 PM
Horrible to think some people could use it and think they are Fly Fishing :(

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yeah. philistines all of 'em  :8)
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Wildfisher on April 26, 2017, 06:09:16 PM
Nice one Dave. It even works for cod.    :lol:
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: corsican dave on May 09, 2017, 10:45:57 PM
Quote from: admin on April 25, 2017, 10:52:08 PM
It's a strange attitude. Some folk would happily cast this all day and call it fly fishing, yet look down on the squirmy or the San Juan Worm   :lol:   For me as long as the method / lure is legal I can't see problem.  Doesn't mean I'd want to use it myself but if others do I can't see the harm in it.

(http://taysalmonfly.co.uk/Assets/ProductImages/7fa984b1-c5df-4b61-977b-f29579ff5268.JPG)
not only that, but they'd cast it in the hope of catching a fish that doesn't feed in fresh water  :shock:. design a fly that looks like a worm (or even a duckling) and you're a pariah  :roll:

personally i'm completely browned off with the deer-hair pellet fly mentality for carp. but it's not so much the fly as the complete lack of imagination or observation that gets me.

if you saw saw trout chasing fry you'd be pretty daft to insist on using a #20 trico....
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Chase on May 14, 2017, 02:01:31 PM
I tied up some squirmies several years ago but have never fished them . Last weekend I had a few casts with one and caught 2  W B T out of a very tiny Cotswold stream in the space of 10 mins .
I had a chuckle and took it off .
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: rannoch raider on May 14, 2017, 04:25:33 PM
Why did you take it off ?
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: corsican dave on May 14, 2017, 07:48:11 PM
Quote from: rannoch raider on May 14, 2017, 04:25:33 PM
Why did you take it off ?
love ya' Jim!  :lol:
Title: Re: A good old traditional pattern for you
Post by: Chase on May 15, 2017, 07:19:44 AM
Quote from: corsican dave on May 14, 2017, 07:48:11 PM
love ya' Jim!  :lol:
Proved it worked , went back to dryfly .