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Title: October 2006 Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on October 17, 2006, 08:43:04 PM
What are you tying, what is the pattern, how do you fish it? Include a photo if you have one
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on October 17, 2006, 09:00:24 PM
Black Ice Spider

Tied some of these up last winter. They don't come much simpler than this. Simple = effective. I have caught a load of browns and 'bows on this. It is deadly, helped I think by the sparse dressing and translucency of the body.  Have not used it on rivers. I fish it on the top dropper of a 2 fly, or the middle dropper of a three fly cast. Floating line, dead slow retrieve.

Hook: 14
Thread: red
Body:  Veniard Black Ice Yarn, a sparse bunch of strands torn from the yarn and dubbed  onto the thread.
Rib : Tying thread
Hackle : natural black hen, two turns

Also  works well as an olive variant. Use olive ice yarn and a greenwell hen hackle.


Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Pearly Invicta on October 18, 2006, 12:29:18 PM
A black hopper? Is that its name John?

Some suggestions

Dennis Hopper
Space Hopper
Shaft (Black Copper)

I'll get me coat
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Malcolm on October 19, 2006, 10:47:51 PM
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Hello,

Tying an edie with a couple of minor variations. Firstly I think it's a better fly on a standard s10 rather than a 2x Ls. Secondly I prefer a hackle fibre tail rather than moose tail.

Tying:
Hook: s.10
Body: pale yellow/beige wool
Tail: Dark ginger hackle fibre
Thorax: Dark Brown Poly dubbing
Wing: Deer Hair Compara style but quite Sparse
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Malcolm on October 19, 2006, 10:52:09 PM
Sorry didn't attach image
Here it is
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Ptinid on October 21, 2006, 08:49:50 PM
If nobody minds, I'm going to tie a new fly. I found an interesting material called Kanban metallic craft cord. It's basically a blue polyprop core with black metallic weave over it and I've been using it for both instant detached bodies and  for simple, instant body & tails (black sparkly body - blue tail). Superglued onto shank.

I've had some success with it in late season and the nymph version was quite useful for the broonies on the Eden in September.

I've no name for it, and I'll fiddle with the dressing a bit before tying up the swap flies. Think you'll like it though.

In the same craft shop, I also found 'Anita's 3-D clear gloss finish' which makes quite a nice alternative to laquer varnishes. It's slightly softer and I find it easier to apply.

Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on October 23, 2006, 07:05:09 PM
Quotecould call it the gay boy (being pink)

That could go right with my "poof" fly that i tied up one evening. Its a got a shrimp pink body and a white and red palmered body. I've still no used it, never dared.

Cheers
Robbie
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on October 25, 2006, 09:39:37 PM
it might come out better on  a neutral grey background
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on October 25, 2006, 09:46:22 PM
I must say its not as gay as my one, but thats not really something to boast about.....
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on October 30, 2006, 07:15:01 PM
Is it ok if i tie my poof fly up? I've never used it before and have no idea how effective it will be so i wouldnt want to waste everybodys time if its pish.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Ptinid on October 31, 2006, 11:15:44 PM
Sorry, can't get that yarn to work well - or rather consistently enough to tie up 20 flies (allowing for duff ones). It keeps slipping round the hook, and superglue don't hold it well enough.

I'll work on it over the winter, but will have to come up with something else for the swap.

Dunno what, worse - dunno when  :?

There will be contribution. Will have to delve deep into the books though!
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on November 01, 2006, 11:49:51 AM
Bob'll be after you Ardbeg. That thorax is a bit long!  :D

Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: rabbitangler on November 01, 2006, 02:39:06 PM
Sorry this is such a simple wee fly but I've caught plenty on it. It works really weel on the point tied on a #10 double, but I didn't have any.

It started life after I'd been tying some silver march browns so I call it a pearly march brown.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on November 04, 2006, 07:48:57 PM
When do you want the flees to be in for?
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Clan Ford on November 19, 2006, 03:19:19 AM
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k186/strathearn/wfs-19-11-2006-01-46-26-image5.jpg)

Poly Yarn Emerger.

Hook:   Teimco TMC200R, size 18, barb crushed and shank bent so body sits below surface.
Thread: 8/0 Olive,
Body:    harelug
Rib:      Tying thread
Wing:    Grey Poly Yarn
Thorax: harelug
Hackle:  badger, clipped on the underside.

My top dry fly on the river this season.  A couple of variations - smaller hook and a white wing is good during a BWO hatch in the gloom.  If there are sedge about a brown poly yarn wing tied over the hackle seems to do the job.  As youd expect just a wee dab of gink up by the thorax, wet the body first!

Not quite figured out how to post images yet, hope its not too big!

I've PM'd you for your details Steve.  I'll get them in the post as soon as I know where to send them.

Norm
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on November 22, 2006, 10:00:06 PM
Andy, what sizes do you tie them in
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on November 26, 2006, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: Exerod on November 26, 2006, 02:27:40 PM
The Black gnat in question is a terrestrial, so it will be less of an emerger and more of a drowner :)

Trouble with  entering  a fly swap with you Andy is your flies are so professional and well tied you show us chancers  up!  :D
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Ptinid on November 26, 2006, 10:55:39 PM
My flies will, unfortunately, be there on time, and also will be up to my usual low standard  - I really mean that this time  :oops:

Time has not been my friend so  - a really simple fly - so simple I'm more than a bit embarrased - except that it did catch fish last season.

size 12 down eyed hooks
black thread
sparse strands of white CDC to act as a shuck
Olive Seal fur sub body dubbing (nice and leggy)
and grey closed cell foam for the thorax.

It swims just below the surface when cast upriver and should be OK on lochs as well.

Will have 'em finished and in the post to arrive on 30th Nov (1st Dec at worst.)

Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on November 27, 2006, 09:01:47 PM
Just finished tying my flees tonight and my dads gonna do his tommorow at work. Sorry for being so late. Kept delaying it and delaying it. Are we the last?

Cheers

Robbie
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on November 28, 2006, 09:31:34 PM
Is it 16 we've to tie? How long are you willing to wait for them, my dads being really lazy and still not tied them, il try and get onto him to hurry up.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on December 02, 2006, 10:19:22 PM
My dads bailed out at the last minute. He's been really busy at the moment and hasnt found the time to tie them. In my opinion he's just being lazy, but its him thats missing out in the end. My flies are going in the post monday morning, sorry for the lateness but i was waitng for my dad to tie his.

Cheers

Robbie
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on December 05, 2006, 08:59:58 PM
Quote from: Steve on December 05, 2006, 08:44:48 PM
Any idea what we should do with them?

A few suggestions

1. Give them to Bandy Catcher – he needs all the help he can get to catch a fish  :D
2. Send them to Swithun – it might help him forget the daily torment and anguish of being English for a few minutes.  :D :D
3. If there are any really bushy ones send them to Boo or Richy and they can glue them to their heids as a hair substitute  :D :D :D
4. Send them to Vladamir Romanov they say he's a bit of a fly-man  :D :D :D :D
5. Best option - send them to Dod to say thanks for his generous donation to the forum a  few weeks back (OK he is from Elgin but no one's perfect)  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: rabbitangler on December 05, 2006, 10:33:13 PM
Quote from: crocach on December 05, 2006, 10:29:13 PM

Either that or we let Steve keep them for going to all the bother of being middle man for the swap.

Well said it can't be easy to have the hassle

Peter :D
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Fishtales on December 05, 2006, 11:43:22 PM
I'm not in the swap, but how about the guy haresear is teaching to fish. Just a thought.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Clan Ford on December 06, 2006, 09:44:14 PM
Steve,

Either keep them for yourself or pass them on to a beginner, as fishtales suggested.

Norm
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: rabbitangler on December 06, 2006, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: fishtales on December 05, 2006, 11:43:22 PM
I'm not in the swap, but how about the guy haresear is teaching to fish. Just a thought.

This idea gets my vote!! :D :D
Peter
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Fishtales on December 08, 2006, 09:50:45 PM
Get everyone in the swap to send you a PM with their suggestion and pick the one with the most votes (you having the casting vote).
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: haresear on December 08, 2006, 10:46:17 PM
PM to Steve on its way. Guess what it suggests?

I lost a fly box this year :(, but if Peter the Pupil (casting lesson tomorrow - he's giving me the lesson) happens to get the thumbs up, I promise to pass on the full bhoona rather than just the crap which I don't use.

Alex
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on December 13, 2006, 04:21:55 PM
Got my flies. Well impressed. Thanks to all.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Clan Ford on December 13, 2006, 06:20:55 PM
Got the flies, thanks a lot guys.  I was particularly interested in the DHE, I just can't get them to work.  Thought mine might be complete different from the rest but from what I see they look similar - just much smaller.  Obviously the troots like em big!  Thanks again for the flies, can't wait to use them.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Malcolm on December 13, 2006, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: Clan Ford on December 13, 2006, 06:20:55 PM
I was particularly interested in the DHE, I just can't get them to work.  Thought mine might be complete different from the rest but from what I see they look similar - just much smaller.  Obviously the troots like em big! 

The only really big flee that looked like a DHE was mine I think and It's a mayfly imitation (the Edie) although It looks a bit like a huge DHE.

Anyway brilliant flies everyone and I'm really looking forward to using them in the summer
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: rabbitangler on December 13, 2006, 09:57:56 PM
Thanks for some extremely interesting flies chaps. look forward to giving them a chuck soon as.

Special thanks once again to our master of ceremonies Steve!  :bigface;

Peter
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Ptinid on December 13, 2006, 10:29:27 PM
Mine arrived today. Some lively wee flies as well as the monsters. Great tying guys - thanks to all.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on December 14, 2006, 06:17:18 PM
Still havnae got mine  :( Can't wait till they come. Then all i have to wait for is march.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: nant_fisher on December 16, 2006, 07:11:44 PM
Got my flies today, really really cant wait to test them out. Some belters in this bunch. They came with the "flowers" that Chris let me have (cheers Chris) and i think il have to tie upmy flies for the next swap with them, im really pleased with it can't thank Chris enough.

Cheers

Robbie
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Wildfisher on December 16, 2006, 08:16:59 PM
Quote from: shielfisher on December 15, 2006, 03:19:22 AM
Yeah.... but trust me, it works

Believe him, it will.  Hamish is a  real  "big flee"  dude.

Fishing on Stemster in Caithness  oor Hamish gave me a MASSIVE olive Loch Ordie tied on a 10 long shank. It looked like something a sweepie might stick up yer lum. I caught 2 troot almost straight away – 1 ? and 2 lb.

Good fish sometimes like a good mouthful it seems.
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: Malcolm on December 16, 2006, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: admin on December 16, 2006, 08:16:59 PM
Quote from: shielfisher on December 15, 2006, 03:19:22 AM
Yeah.... but trust me, it works


Fishing on Stemster in Caithness  oor Hamish gave me a MASSIVE olive Loch Ordie tied on a 10 long shank. It looked like something a sweepie might stick up yer lum. I caught 2 troot almost straight away ? 1 ? and 2 lb.

Good fish sometimes like a good mouthful it seems.


Big Loch ordies seem to be the order of the day up in that neck of the woods - I stayed at the Garvault some years ago and the then owner gave me a couple of huge Loch Ordies to fish on Druim. I couldn't believe the size of the things but they were absolutely deadly.

Malcolm
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: haresear on December 17, 2006, 01:28:56 AM
QuoteI stayed at the Garvault some years ago and the then owner gave me a couple of huge Loch Ordies to fish on Druim. I couldn't believe the size of the things but they were absolutely deadly.

That would be Tony. I hear he is no longer with us  :(
You are right about the L. Ordies in that area. I think Tony swore by a size 6  :shock:.

Alex
Title: Re: October Fly Swap Flies
Post by: haresear on December 22, 2006, 11:45:33 AM
QuoteThat would be Tony. I hear he is no longer with us 
You are right about the L. Ordies in that area. I think Tony swore by a size 6  .


QuoteThat small   

Good one Hamish. :lol: :lol:

Alex