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Title: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: Wildfisher on February 17, 2008, 09:18:55 AM
Tying CDC  bodies and legs in the style of Hans Weilenmann's   CDC elk caddis. I just cannot get the leg effect right at all.

Looks like a job for Super-Den.  How about it Dennis, a step by step that shows how to do this properly?
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: scotfly on February 17, 2008, 10:56:04 AM
Afraid I couldn't improve on Hans' own step by step, including video, Fred.
http://www.danica.com/flytier/hweilenmann/cdcelk.htm
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: Wildfisher on February 17, 2008, 11:08:58 AM
thanks for the link Dennis, that'll do nicely
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: Wildfisher on February 17, 2008, 07:28:27 PM
Have looked at Hans Weilenmann's  site. I think the problem is I'm not using a "type one" CDC feather
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: Wildfisher on February 17, 2008, 07:39:29 PM
I like the look of that fly Col, have you had success with it? He's a great tier  is Hans Weilenmann and helpful too. He sent me some great pics of Wyatts DHE when it was featured in Fish Wild
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: Malcolm on February 17, 2008, 07:58:17 PM
Thanks for the link. I've been tying it wrongly. The version I was using had a palmered CDC hackle although everything else is identical. Great fly even when corrupted.
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: The General on February 17, 2008, 08:39:16 PM
Probably the best fly you will ever use

No kidding

Davie
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: shanksi on February 17, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
Going to tie a few up again this year.  Have to check have right kind of deer hair as well.  This fly tying isnae half complicated. :D
Biggest problem I have is stopping the deer hair flaring too much but have recently bought the Fly Tiers Benchside Reference book so will have a search through it for hints.

shanksi
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: The General on February 17, 2008, 10:02:03 PM
The secret Ian is line up your deer hair in stacker.  Line up points with hook bend and do one loose loop over the end of the
deer hair and when your second loop is just coming back up from under the hook, pull it upwards very tightly and do one more
tight loop over the deer hair, then chop the deer hair just in front of the eye and take the thread thru the butts at a half way
point then lift the butts and tie in a tight loop again before whip finishing.  It is honestly not difficult.

Davie

I will post a photie of the last one I used.
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: The General on February 17, 2008, 10:17:36 PM
Please excuse the quick fotie, couldnt find my tripod and the lights not right.  The body is actually natural cdc, more a greyey brown colour.   This was what remained after eleven fish so I wouldnt exactly say the tying has to that scientific.  Someone
posted a link to this fly last year and I tied it (might have been Tradionalist) I have never blanked with this fly.  It is my first
line of attack and certainly my last as the light fades.   Hope your no going to be fishing the same lochs as me know you
know the big secret.  I had to laff when you asked for the best three flies if you were restricted to only those and I was
gonna post  CDC/Elk  CDC/Elk  CDC/Elk.  When the fish were immediately on this fly I then experimented with different colours
but where I fish the biggest taker is the natural without a doubt.  It is remarkable how visible this fly becomes on water.
I have never tied bigger than a 14 and that and a sixteen look like a beacon.   I tried it on the Ness but I suffered from
too fast a flow and couldnt quite manage to keep up with the river when casting upstream but still managed five wee trouts
and just as I was about to retrieve it at the end of a flow I got a massive take but I managed to pull the hook out of the
fishes mouth it had taken me completely by surprise.   Best of luck with it am looking forward to your responses a bit later
in the season

Davie
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: scotfly on February 18, 2008, 12:59:28 AM
I would recommend that you tie the wing exactly as Hans describes. Once you get used to it, measuring and cutting the wings before tying in makes it much easier than cutting them after tying in.
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: Tim on February 18, 2008, 03:45:42 PM
My tie which caught some very decent fish on the chalkstreams around mayfly time. This is a size 12. I prefer Elk Hair to bleached deer hair in the larger sizes.

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1336/538395633_f011e910fb_b.jpg)

Any advice on dying cdc? I've got tons of natural stuff collected this winter :D but like the olive colouring. There was a thread about using bleach but I couldn't make it work. Any ideas?

Tim
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: scotfly on February 18, 2008, 05:19:51 PM
I've always bought my dyed cdc so haven't tried dying it.
A quick search on (http://img116.exs.cx/img116/7863/google5iw.gif) threw up this link.. http://www.iffa.org.uk/dyingcdc.htm
Title: Re: Tying CDC Bodies and Legs
Post by: Tim on February 19, 2008, 12:16:59 AM
I'll give both a try and report back.

Think my problem with bleach last time was I used it fairly neat rather than in solution - ended up with cdc herl.

Thanks

Tim