For Klink wings etc. I don’t like the Veniard stuff at all. Too smooth and far too thin – has to be doubled again and again which is not ideal. Have used some fancy Roman Moser material, but like most things 'Moser' it costs about 10 X what it's actually worth.
Can anyone recommend a good crinkly fibred polyyarn?
Fred,
I use Hareline Dubbin, Inc. stuff, usually have to split it to get the correct thickness but then I double mine over while securing to the hook. There are a couple of different types Polypro yarn and the one that I currently use Para Post Wing (treated with watershed). Not sure of the best supplier I get mine from eastern europe.
Norm
I use this one a lot... http://www.lakelandflytying.com/2060/Yarns_and_Wools/Uni_Glo_Yarn.aspx
This one's good and although it seems expensive, it's not. You split it down and it goes a long way... http://www.lakelandflytying.com/1671/Yarns_and_Wools/Aero_Dry_Wing.aspx
This is a good choice too... http://www.sportfish.co.uk/product/33768/Polypropylene_Floating_Yarn.html
There are loads of others too... Take your pick of supplier and Polypropylene yarn.
QuoteI use Hareline Dubbin, Inc. stuff
Is that the McFlyon stuff Norm? That's what I've been using lately and it is a nice consistency for the job.
I also use Ice Yarn at times. the Ice Yarn really catches the sun on bright days and stands out well.
Alex
Alex,
No sure if its the same or not - my packaging is in polish!
Scotfly,
I've found both the glo yarn and the sportfish stuff to be pants. Never used the aerowing but it looks right.
Norm
I just checked the name of the stuff I use. The yarn is McFlylon from here http://www.lakelandflytying.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=145
.....and the flashy stuff is not Ice yarn as I said previously, but Ice Wing. http://www.lakelandflytying.com/265/Flash_Materials.aspx
Alex
Quote from: haresear on April 02, 2008, 12:32:20 AM
I just checked the name of the stuff I use. The yarn is McFlylon from here http://www.lakelandflytying.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=145
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I'll vouch for that stuff too.
I don't know if it's polypropylene, but you get a nice big hank in a range of colours (including dull ones). It's quite coarse so holds it's shape a bit better than a lot of them. I like the Niche (siliconized poly) stuff, but it's too expensive for what it is, I think.
.D.
Quote from: scotfly on April 01, 2008, 11:08:32 PM
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This is a good choice too... http://www.sportfish.co.uk/product/33768/Polypropylene_Floating_Yarn.html
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Is it crinkly?
From the picture it looks like the stuff Lureflash do: i.e. No!
I've not seen it in the flesh.
.D.
QuoteIt's quite coarse so holds it's shape a bit better than a lot of them.
You are right .D., the stuff needs to be quite coarse and crinkly. Straight fibres rather than crinkly tend to hold water rather too easily. Stuff that is too fine in the fibre tends to frizz into a wee ball.
Wee Bri once suggested using dapping floss. I tried it and it was OK. Worth trying if you have any lying around, but no doubt it varies according to brand.
Alex
Apparently McFlylon's also a very popular choice for making your own yarn indicators. For float fishing :crap.
( :roll:)
.D.
Quote from: Clan Ford on April 01, 2008, 11:22:59 PM
I've found both the glo yarn and the sportfish stuff to be pants.
I've never had any problems with it. What don't you like about it?
Quote from: .D. on April 02, 2008, 01:26:14 AM
Is it crinkly?
From the picture it looks like the stuff Lureflash do: i.e. No!
Not being crinkly isn't an issue with me.
Reading some of the replies it appears that a few use the parachute post to support the fly :? Radical I know, but I use the parachute hackle for that, the post is there to wrap the hackle round, (possibly) represent a wing and act as a convenient sighter.
Quote from: scotfly on April 02, 2008, 09:18:01 AM
I've never had any problems with it. What don't you like about it?
Apart from wing posts I use the stuff just like an F-Fly and for spinner, where the non floating properties are a problem. I found the gloyarn wasa bit too soft and splayed out too much and ended up too short, just didn't like that much.
Quote from: scotfly on April 02, 2008, 09:18:01 AM
Not being crinkly isn't an issue with me.
Reading some of the replies it appears that a few use the parachute post to support the fly :? Radical I know, but I use the parachute hackle for that, the post is there to wrap the hackle round, (possibly) represent a wing and act as a convenient sighter.
That's the thing, there are different stages of emeger :lol:
Norm
Quote from: scotfly on April 02, 2008, 09:18:01 AM
Not being crinkly isn't an issue with me.
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"Can anyone recommend a good
crinkly fibred polyyarn?"
Reading the original question properly is an issue with me. :lol:
That's why I included the rider about being unsure as to if Mcflylon is polypropylene. I don't know actually know, but it behaves in much the same way as "crinkly fibred polyyarn". :wink:
Quote from: scotfly on April 02, 2008, 09:18:01 AM
Reading some of the replies it appears that a few use the parachute post to support the fly :? Radical I know, but I use the parachute hackle for that, the post is there to wrap the hackle round, (possibly) represent a wing and act as a convenient sighter.
Reading "some" of the replies it seems to be assumed that there are no uses for yarn other than parachute wingposts.
You might use it for the tufts on a Shipman's buzzer, or for the shuck on a film fly that sits flush in the film. You might use it for spinner wings (like Clan Ford, and very many others). Crinkled fibres may even be easier to see; reflecting more points of light (maybe). The post on a Klink may also represent the emerging fly in some cases, and the tied "body" the shuck.
The crinkly stuff is also easier to tie in. Less slippery, more "volume" (to the eye) and less bulk.
Radical, I know :roll:
.D.
PS - doesn't van Klinken himself use crinkly poly yarn and treat it with floatant?
Quote from: .D. on April 02, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
"Can anyone recommend a good crinkly fibred polyyarn?"
:oops2
Quote from: admin on April 01, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
For Klink wings etc.
Quote from: .D. on April 02, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
Reading the original question properly is an issue with me. :lol:
:roflmao
Quote from: .D. on April 02, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
PS - doesn't van Klinken himself use crinkly poly yarn and treat it with floatant?
Yes he does. According to Ollie Edwards HvK treats the wing post only, not the hackle. I have serious doubts about yarn, crinkly or not, being enough to support the fly for long.
Not sure why you're rolling about, Scotfly. Are you ill?
Quote from: admin on April 01, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
For Klink wings etc.
"etc" implies he's not just going to use it for Klink wings.
Quote from: admin on April 01, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
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Can anyone recommend a good crinkly fibred polyyarn?
Whereas the question that followed asks quite specifically for a crinkly fibre.
Do you see? :makefun
.D.
Crinkly V Straight.
I'm no scientist, but these are my thoughts.
Crinkly fibres have a greater surface area than straight fibres of the same length and therefore better floatation in the surface film. Good for spinner patterns or F fly types.
Having a greater surface area, they (crinkly) have more air resistance and so if cast properly are more likely to land the right way up, especially as they collectively have more volume, so falling through the air flips the fly right way up. Good for parachute posts.
Crinkly fibres are also less likely to hold water than straight fibres. Dip both in water, hold them side by side and blow on them together. The fibres on the crinkly stuff will spring apart whilst the straight stuff will remain clogged with water. Crinkly is better for all floating flies.
I'm not sure if McFlylon is poly yran or not, but it does float. I know because I compared it with Wapsi poly yarn and EP fibres last night in a tumbler. The EP stuff looked to be the right consistency :), but sinks like a stone :(.
Alex
I use bootlaces. Great stuff and really crinkly. Good selection of colours too.
Quote from: haresear on April 02, 2008, 01:29:49 PM
Crinkly V Straight.
crinkle cut tattie crisps win hands doon. It's the texture ye see......................... :D