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Title: Tying vises
Post by: Pete on January 17, 2009, 10:05:12 PM
What do you use or would you recommend??

I have a birthday looming :D :D :D

cheers Pete
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Malcolm on January 17, 2009, 10:16:02 PM
I use a simple Weaver lever vice very cheap but reliable hook holding and that's all I want. A quick internet search shows it her half way down the page

http://www.wharfedaleangling.co.uk/Vices.htm
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Clan Ford on January 17, 2009, 10:19:25 PM
I use a cheap regent vice, it can take any size of hook and rotates enough for my needs.  I particullarly live the lever action, no pussy footin' about with different hook sizes:D

Norm
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: rabbitangler on January 17, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
After nearly forty years of tying I got myself a real waldron vice last year. for five years before that I was using one of the snowbee rotary vices (not the snowbee waldron type) and found it a cracking vice. Though if I was to be picky the knuckle joint on the stem can be a pain if you don't tighten it up fully. There is one without that joint which a friend uses happily.

Peter
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Clan Chief on January 18, 2009, 12:39:26 AM
Same as Clan ford I use a regent with a solid base I also have the clamp version . In my opinion it suits all fly tying needs. Like Clan ford I reallly like the lever action of holding the hook.
I can't for the life of me understand why people will purchase vices in the 2 to 3 hundered quid bracket for the simple function of holding a hook and dressing it.
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: scotfly on January 18, 2009, 01:52:35 AM
The Regent vice is a good serviceable and cheap vice which will give you many years service. ?20.00 delivered http://www.anglers-lodge.co.uk/product/category/25867/ROTATING_REGENT_VICE I had one and tied 1000's of flies on it before I sold it on and upgraded to.....
A step up, but still a "side lever," like the Regent, is the Weaver "Scottie" ?60 delivered http://www.oreillysfishing.co.uk/acatalog/OReillys_Fishing_Fly_tying_vices_Weaver_and_Snowbee_Waldron_14.html  again, I had one of these and if it's in your budget is the vice I would recommend.
After that the world is your oyster, according to your budget. Anything from Anvil, HMH, Dyna-King, etc will be good, all the way up to the LAW at ?450.

Quote from: Clan Chief on January 18, 2009, 12:39:26 AM
I can't for the life of me understand why people will purchase vices in the 2 to 3 hundered quid bracket for the simple function of holding a hook and dressing it.
Me neither, I would never use such a cheap vice.  :roll:  :crap
Clan Chief, like everything in life, you get what you pay for. If you want the best, can afford it and justify the cost, then why not?
I tie 1000's of flies every season, flytying is my passion. I wanted the best and could afford it at the time, and after a great deal of thought I bought the LAW. Could I justify the cost? Yes, I love the aesthetics of it, it's functionality, its ability to do everything I ask of it, and more. It has increased my flytying pleasure.
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 18, 2009, 10:56:36 AM
Quote from: scotfly on January 18, 2009, 01:52:35 AM
It has increased my flytying pleasure.

And what else is there to any hobby?  Same with  tackle, buy what adds to your pleasure.
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Ian_M on January 18, 2009, 02:56:58 PM
QuoteMakes you want to get a broon jaiket and a pipe.

and ...

a steel rule and selection of pens for the top pocket.
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 18, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
by the way it's tying VICES  

....................you guys  and your fucking Americanisms really piss me off sometimes ........... man I mean it's all so totally bogus dude  .......we have high standards of proper English to maintain here y'all    :makefun
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: haresear on January 18, 2009, 03:19:45 PM
Quote.......we have high standards of proper English to maintain here y'all   

Och whit urr ye blabberin aboot ma loon? :D Wur command o' the languge is second tae nane :)

Alex
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 18, 2009, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: haresear on January 18, 2009, 03:19:45 PM
Och whit urr ye blabberin aboot ma loon? :D Wur command o' the languge is second tae nane :)

Alex

it's OK, I'm just pissed off coz I've bought a new vice as a result of this thread. Brian Tulloch is really in for  it now................ :D
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: .D. on January 18, 2009, 03:38:03 PM
I've got the Snowbee Waldron one.

It works fine but it didn't change my life.

PS - the old "buy the most expensive equipment you can afford because it must be better" adage doesn't really stand up to scrutiny, though C&F Designs certainly do very well out of it :wink:.


.D.
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 18, 2009, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: .D. on January 18, 2009, 03:38:03 PM
PS - the old "buy the most expensive equipment you can afford because it must be better" adage doesn't really stand up to scrutiny, though C&F Designs certainly do very well out of it :wink:.

Agreed.  I have a few of their fly boxes. Good but not worth the money.
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: scotfly on January 18, 2009, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: admin on January 18, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
by the way it's tying VICES  

....................you guys  and your fucking Americanisms really piss me off sometimes

You 'n me both Fred!


Quote from: admin on January 18, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
we have high standards of proper English to maintain here y'all    :makefun

You used the "E" word    shame on you!
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: shanksi on January 18, 2009, 08:29:32 PM
Another one for the Regent pedastal, does what I need for my fly tying.

shanksi
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Pete on January 18, 2009, 10:06:45 PM
Thanks for all the responses guys. 

Scotfly put me onto a site which reviews a wide selection of VICES (my apologies for the horrendous spelling error there :roll:) which looks quite handy.

http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/hwvise/index.html

Worth a look.

Cheers Pete
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: scotfly on January 19, 2009, 01:36:27 AM
Quote from: breac uaig on January 18, 2009, 06:07:06 PM
And whits wrang wi' the "E" word? scotfly,you have tae mak allowances for all creeds and religions on this forum as lang as its nae the "A" word, after all there are some of us who actually are English, :shock:    :)    breac uaig

Sorry I was working on the assumtion that they had a sense of humour too.  :angel;
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 20, 2009, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: brian on January 18, 2009, 11:51:58 AM
I use an anvil apex vice Pete, it is a nice piece of kit without spending a fortune. Hopefully it should last a lifetime.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Anvil-Apex-Fly-Tying-Vice_W0QQitemZ370145112160QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090116?IMSfp=TL090116119003r10285


I just took delivery of this vice. An excellent piece of engineering. Hopefully I will now be able to tie very small flies without going nuts.  The service from that ebay seller was astonishing. One working day and it was here.   :shock:
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 20, 2009, 10:04:11 PM
And here are the first flies tied with it. Size 18 and 20 parachutes.

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Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Clan Chief on January 20, 2009, 10:32:33 PM
Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: haresear on January 20, 2009, 11:02:15 PM
Nice, Fred. You couldn't rustle up a quick 40 of those in a size 14 could you? :)

Alex
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 20, 2009, 11:04:48 PM
getting the comparadun flared tails to sit right is the hard bit..................... :?
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 20, 2009, 11:26:30 PM
Quote from: haresear on January 20, 2009, 11:02:15 PM
Nice, Fred. You couldn't rustle up a quick 40 of those in a size 14 could you? :)

Alex

If only I could get size 14 hooks ...........................  :?

there seems to be a world shortage of size 14  Kamasan B170s   :(

I blame Dennis he's used them all up  doing these SBS's    :D
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2009, 12:45:59 AM
Very nice Fred.  Is there a knack to the spilt tails, I tried a technique from one of Dennis's sbs with a ball of dubbung but couldn't really get it to work :?

Pete
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Malcolm on January 21, 2009, 12:56:48 AM
Quote from: admin on January 20, 2009, 11:26:30 PM

there seems to be a world shortage of size 14  Kamasan B170s   :(



isn't the b400 very similar?
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 21, 2009, 10:58:42 AM
I have been unable to get these in 100's since last November.  :?
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: shanksi on January 21, 2009, 12:58:35 PM
just checked GAC Fred and they have them in order in 100's, probably means you could get them for Xmas. :D  Have you tried Brian at the Big Reel in Ayr, he used to do them in 100's, his no is 01292 290011.
Nice flies by the way Fred.

shanksi
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Wildfisher on January 22, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
got some b170 14s in the Orvis shop in Banchory today. In 25s - a dear way to buy ............. :(
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: east wind on January 25, 2009, 02:43:02 PM
Like the look of them regents, think i should splash out ?20 on one, this is what greeted me when i opened the tying box today.

Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: east wind on January 25, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
After following this thread, I bought one of the Regent vices myself. I really like it and it's wonderfully chunky!
John
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John, looks like its a goer for me then.

Col, it is indeed a veniard. I started tying when i inherited  boxes of stuff from my mates father in law, Mr Todd from the Dumfries area who had just passed away. Some things like an all wooden fly reel were collectables which i sent back.
I still use lots of his material today and that above was his vice.

Think its time to move on. I have made big strides in the fishing gear department and could almost pass as an angler. Have even bought a pair of breathables for the summer after nearly collapsing on the Lanarkshire Avon from heat exhaustion last August wearing neos.

Cheers,

EW
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Crawhin on January 25, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
EW - you won't go wrong with the Regent as they are a good piece of kit and great value for the money. My only slight criticism is that they aren't so brilliant with larger hooks - if you'll be tying a lot of pike or salt water flees (could just be mine though?). For your average sizes 18 - 8 however they're great. 

Your screw-tightening veniard vice brings back memories - it was also my first vice 30 odd years ago bought in a little boxed veniards starter kit with saved up pocket money from the local ironmonger/tackle shop.

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Fishtales on January 25, 2009, 06:28:36 PM
Looks like they are a re-badging company. They look as if they buy unmarked items from various companies and add their branding to them. There are a few items on their website that look familiar  :)
Title: Re: Tying vises
Post by: Crawhin on January 25, 2009, 10:11:13 PM
Cheers for that Col - hadn't actually spotted that they could be 'adjusted' like that - will give it a shot.

Ian