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Title: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Wildfisher on April 17, 2012, 09:27:30 AM
Anyone mark where the head ends on their WF lines?


Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Fadpasser on April 17, 2012, 10:29:54 AM
Thats something I tried for a while but found I ended up ignoring the marker as was to busy watching the water, just another fad to be passed.
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Wildfisher on April 17, 2012, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: Fadpasser on April 17, 2012, 10:29:54 AM
just another fad to be passed.

There is certainly no shortage of those. This French nymphing  (as I understand it, basically bait fishing with flies and driven by the compy crowd)  appears to be the latest fad out there.  :D
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Malcolm on April 17, 2012, 11:10:01 AM
I marked one line when I took  an interest for a while in distance casting about 15 months ago. I've often thought though particularly for newcomers that a mark at the end of the head would be useful.
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: scotty9 on April 17, 2012, 11:36:15 AM
Quote from: Malcolm on April 17, 2012, 11:10:01 AM
I marked one line when I took  an interest for a while in distance casting about 15 months ago. I've often thought though particularly for newcomers that a mark at the end of the head would be useful.


Depends if they can reach it  :lol: For an intermediate I think it's definitely worth doing as sometimes you find someone struggling to cast and it turns out they have the head a good bit outside the tip ring, they don't haul and their cast just doesn't work. It definitely can be a good thing.

I used to mark most of my lines, now I can't be arsed. Two tone lines are good.
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Traditionalist on April 17, 2012, 01:58:34 PM
Quote from: admin on April 17, 2012, 09:27:30 AM
Anyone mark where the head ends on their WF lines?

Yep, thats the bit where it's tied to my backing! :)

TL
MC
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: haresear on April 17, 2012, 02:04:16 PM
I had various distances marked on the line I used for my instructor's assessment - it made sense at the time, but I don't need that now.

In fishing, I don't need to mark the head, I can just feel for it.

I do think like Malcolm does, that it is a useful aid for beginners or for people used to double tapers who have moved over to WF lines.

Alex
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Wildfisher on April 17, 2012, 07:35:12 PM
Quote from: buster1980 on April 17, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
Fred have you tried French nymphing? Works like feck and is another tool to use when fishing the conditions.

Never tried it. Worms work like feck too.  :lol:
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: zeolite on April 17, 2012, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: admin on April 17, 2012, 07:35:12 PM
Never tried it. Worms work like feck too.  :lol:

They certainly do and are great fun in the right conditions!

never heard of this French nymphing. Link anyone?
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Wildfisher on April 17, 2012, 10:03:30 PM
Quote from: zeolite on April 17, 2012, 09:50:20 PM
never heard of this French nymphing

It's a bit like it's Scottish counterpart,   but gets an additional   40% EU subsidy in order to preserve the traditional French rural  nymphing way of life.   :lol:
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Traditionalist on April 17, 2012, 11:22:50 PM
Quote from: zeolite on April 17, 2012, 09:50:20 PM
They certainly do and are great fun in the right conditions!

never heard of this French nymphing. Link anyone?

Here's a video;

https://www.flyfishingpoint.net/#/gallery/detail/gallery-132-french-nymphing-movie (https://www.flyfishingpoint.net/#/gallery/detail/gallery-132-french-nymphing-movie)

TL
MC
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Wildfisher on April 18, 2012, 08:27:33 AM
TBH all these fancy methods are little different from what has come before. French nymphing no doubt catches fish, but  is basically upstream wet fly, north country style, with no fly line. I'd hate to be stuck with that method on a typical Scottish river with the usual downstream gale. Great for benign France or the Czech Republic in high summer,  less useful in our crap climate at home I think. Like all methods it has its place for sure, however  I recall Mac  (East Wind)  had two cracking  fish this season using conventional tactics while his French knickering  chum blanked. I used to fish like that using small worms instead of flies when I was a lad. It was deadly assuming you could get the worm to stay on. .  :lol:
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Wildfisher on April 18, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
Quote from: Alan on April 18, 2012, 10:07:11 AM
it seems we have stretched everything to fit fly fishing, maybe to stay within the rules of permits.

This is exactly what has happened.  Using a long rod and a fixed spool reel might be more efficient. I don't knock these methods, live and let live, if fishing C+R what's the difference anyway? However,  to my mind,  the thing that defines fly fishing is not the use of flies, it's fly casting. Others will no doubt disagree and that's fair enough.  :D
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Malcolm on April 18, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
Alan,

French nymphing is superlight  - very long leaders and small nymphs. The leader length is up to 10 metres. There is a commercial leader available called Camou. I tried it a couple of years ago and put a report on here about it. I had a couple of seatrout and a brownie on the Endrick but it's not a technique I liked. 
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: scotty9 on April 18, 2012, 01:32:37 PM
Quote from: admin on April 18, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
However,  to my mind,  the thing that defines fly fishing is not the use of flies, it's fly casting. Others will no doubt disagree and that's fair enough.  :D

Me too, that and the fact that you impart action/control the line by your hand on the line rather than through a reel. It feels a bit more engaged to me. I still enjoy spinning for certain fish but those reasons are the main ones for fly fishing most of the time.
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: scotty9 on April 18, 2012, 04:29:42 PM
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: Wildfisher on April 18, 2012, 07:15:44 PM
Quote from: buster1980 on April 18, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
You should come along to Alan, you would fit right in :gay4

are tights allowed or is it French knickers only?   :lol:
Title: Re: Marking Fly Lines
Post by: zeolite on April 19, 2012, 07:02:23 AM
Interesting debate. Here in Wyoming with the almost constant wind, going ultralight is a non-starter. The czech method works because of the heavy nymphs to lob into the wind.
Once I get to the creeks though, I hope to go lighter in the more sheltered spots.