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Title: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 14, 2015, 06:55:51 AM
Hey guys I'm sure some of you will be interested in the savings you can get on the Bergaus Vulcans this is a size 3 for people between 5,7 and 5,11 for you taller ones you will be able to find the size 4 6ft + for the same price.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PW8WGB6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PW8WGB6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Tyro on August 14, 2015, 12:25:10 PM
Those Bergens look a lot more comfortable than the awful pear shaped thing I used to hump about in the Paras in the mid 70s. Having said that I am not into the military look. No camo or khaki for me thanks.

Len
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 14, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Last time I was in Bergen it rained every day.   :lol:
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Highlander on August 14, 2015, 03:27:48 PM
Quoteused to hump about in the Paras in the mid 70s.

"Little PARA in the sky has his wings but can not fly"

Crap Hats Rule ( 34 Fld Sqn, RE)
Sorry Tyro  could not resist it.
:lol:
Tight Lines
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 14, 2015, 03:48:37 PM
Jokes aside that has to be a great deal.  Lots of groovy features (that's a 1960s weekend hippy phrase by the way  :D)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-kmb2zmVXE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-kmb2zmVXE)

I could do with a 100ltr sack for backpacking, think I'll  get one while they are that price.

Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Fishtales on August 14, 2015, 04:48:05 PM
Remember they are heavy, 2.5 Kgs before you put anything in it  :shock:
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 14, 2015, 05:00:16 PM
That's actually pretty light for a 100 ltr heavy duty bag Sandy. My old 65ltr Karrimor, a great sack, weighs the same empty.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 14, 2015, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: Highlander on August 14, 2015, 03:27:48 PM
"Little PARA in the sky has his wings but can not fly"

Crap Hats Rule ( 34 Fld Sqn, RE)
Sorry Tyro  could not resist it.
:lol:
Tight Lines

Ah ive heard the rumours of 3 Para Motor PTL :lol:

(1 RHA Ch/TP forward observer)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: corsican dave on August 14, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
we only needed our webbing. we weren't expected to survive long enough to need anything else. besides which, we could always rely on the paras to be coming up behind with their huge bergens  :lol: (IV RGJ)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 14, 2015, 05:52:26 PM
Quote from: corsican dave on August 14, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
we only needed our webbing. we weren't expected to survive long enough to need anything else. besides which, we could always rely on the paras to be coming up behind with their huge bergens  :lol: (IV RGJ)

Quickest marching regiment in the army wasn't it 160 bpm?
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 14, 2015, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: SoldierPmr on August 14, 2015, 05:52:26 PM
wasn't it 160 bpm?

No soldier I know would have managed on a mere 160 beers per month.  :D
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: corsican dave on August 14, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
probably around 160 beers per minute for the battalion, Fred  :8)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Tyro on August 15, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: corsican dave on August 14, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
probably around 160 beers per minute for the battalion, Fred  :8)

When doing the jump scenes for 'A Bridge Too Far' Attenborough kept 'C' company of which I was a very lowly member in beer for a fortnight. He could not believe how much beer we could get through and still be on parade the next morning for filming. And yes we sometimes kept beer in our Bergens"

Len  :D
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 15, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
Quote from: Tyro on August 15, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
When doing the jump scenes for 'A Bridge Too Far' Attenborough kept 'C' company of which I was a very lowly member in beer for a fortnight. He could not believe how much beer we could get through and still be on parade the next morning for filming. And yes we sometimes kept beer in our Bergens"

Len  :D

It's a different world now it started to decline before I left in 2012 they are taking lads weekends off them if they smell alcohol on their breath on morning parade.

By the way My Vulcan came this morning the quality is far far superior to your bog standard british issue which was based on the Vulcan.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 15, 2015, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: SoldierPmr on August 15, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
By the way My Vulcan came this morning the quality is far far superior to your bog standard british issue which was based on the Vulcan.
Mine is due on Tuesday. I was in the market  for a new day pack anyway and the feature of converting the side pockets into a day pack sold it to me. I sometimes carry a separate day pack when hiking into  some wild camp to use from base, now I won't have to do that. Two bags for the price of one and much reduced price into the bargain.

Thanks for the heads up - great call.  :8)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 15, 2015, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: admin on August 15, 2015, 02:03:12 PM
Mine is due on Tuesday. I was in the market  for a new day pack anyway and the feature of converting the side pockets into a day pack sold it to me. I sometimes carry a separate day pack when hiking into  some wild camp to use from base, now I won't have to do that. Two bags for the price of one and much reduced price into the bargain.

Thanks for the heads up - great call.  :8)

You will be the first person I've ever seen actually use it as a day pack but it's a good nice to have. Like your self I would carry a small day sack rolled up in the main co payment it's self and use it when needed. As the side pouched were usually full.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 15, 2015, 02:15:12 PM
Here we go just about ready for next weekend with out the food and water and the fact I need to tidy the straps :lol:

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Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: corsican dave on August 15, 2015, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: SoldierPmr on August 15, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
My Vulcan came this morning the quality is far far superior to your bog standard british issue which was based on the Vulcan.
you don't get owt for nowt  :8)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Highlander on August 15, 2015, 03:41:10 PM
A practical looking bit of kit.

Tight Lines
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 15, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: corsican dave on August 15, 2015, 02:56:17 PM
you don't get owt for nowt 
But you can save a lot of money by logging onto The Wild FIshing Forum and being made  aware of bargains.   :8)

Wha's like us?    :lol:
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: corsican dave on August 15, 2015, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: admin on August 15, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
But you can save a lot of money by logging onto The Wild FIshing Forum and being made  aware of bargains.   :8)

Wha's like us?    :lol:
absolutely, Fred. and this is a genuine bargain; a very high quality piece of kit at a great price. you won't be disappointed and you won't be buying another pack for many years. well done to Liam for spotting this one  :D
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 15, 2015, 06:35:09 PM
Quote from: corsican dave on August 15, 2015, 05:35:05 PM
you won't be buying another pack for many years
Being no spring chicken this could be my last sack.

The old 65 ltr Karrimor is still in good nick if a bit grubby and will be used for sea fishing etc. I'd expect the Vulcan will outlast me if it's as good as you guys say.

The legs and lungs, while not quite those of a 25 year old, are still strong with no sign of buckling just yet, but won't last for ever. I put it down to all the fgs I didn't smoke and all the pints I never drank. ***  :8)

*** I stole that one from the great  Bobby Lennox
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: haresear on August 15, 2015, 07:23:31 PM
Another Vulcan ordered. Should get here Tuesday.
I had considered buying one in the past, but the price put me off. At around £100 I have bitten the bullet :)

Thanks for the heads up Claretbumble :D

Alex
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 15, 2015, 07:29:11 PM
Quote from: haresear on August 15, 2015, 07:23:31 PM
Another Vulcan ordered.

Now how will we identify who is who on the carousel at CHC?   :lol:
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: haresear on August 15, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
Quote from: admin on August 15, 2015, 07:29:11 PM
Now how will we identify who is who on the carousel at CHC?   :lol:

:lol:  The main reason I bought one is for NZ back country. We must do the hard yards I think - or save up for a chopper hire. No, not the bikes :)

Alex
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 15, 2015, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: haresear on August 15, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
We must do the hard yards I think - or save up for a chopper hire.

What's wrong with a gentle stroll up the Tekapo from Lake Benmore, catch 1/2 dozen 3lb+ fish on dries then back to The Birstro by  7.30PM for Monteiths Black and dual lamb shank?    :8)

Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: corsican dave on August 15, 2015, 10:56:26 PM
Quote from: haresear on August 15, 2015, 07:23:31 PM
Thanks for the heads up Claretbumble :D

Alex
it's the other Liam, Alex...... :wink:

Quote from: haresear on August 15, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
:lol:  The main reason I bought one is for NZ back country. We must do the hard yards I think - or save up for a chopper hire. No, not the bikes :)

Alex
pack-rafts or an Ally folding canoe?  :8)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: haresear on August 15, 2015, 11:37:42 PM
Quoteit's the other Liam, Alex...... :wink:

Oops, sorry. Thanks are redirected to SoldierPmr :)

Quotepack-rafts or an Ally folding canoe?

I don't think the baggage allowance extends that far :lol:


Quote from: admin on August 15, 2015, 10:54:30 PM
What's wrong with a gentle stroll up the Tekapo from Lake Benmore, catch 1/2 dozen 3lb+ fish on dries then back to The Birstro by  7.30PM for Monteiths Black and dual lamb shank?    :8)



All sounds good, but I'm still digesting that outsize lamb. Maybe just a single shank this time...

Alex
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 18, 2015, 11:11:58 AM
My rucksack arrived yesterday and I have now had the chance to have a real look at it.

A very well made and practical bit of kit, not light at 2.78 KG, but for a solid 100 ltr bag that's not bad. I weighed my old 65 ltr Karrimor and it is 2.08 kg (not 2.5 as I thought).

So using a direct comparison of kg per ltr of capacity the Berghaus is better.

Karrimor 65 ltr:  0.032 kg / ltr
Beghaus 100 ltr:  0.028 kg / ltr

I think this 'sack will outlast me.    :D
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Robbie on August 18, 2015, 12:47:22 PM
Fred would this sack take a float tube?
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 18, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
I think it would Robbie, the upper and lower compartments can be used combined as one. 

IMO it's a bit of an overkill if it's just for carrying a float tube. A cheap bag would do that just as well. I have a 30 quid bag I use for that.  :D
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: rannoch raider on August 18, 2015, 01:42:00 PM
The Bergen pack looks like a quality bit of kit but for carrying a float tube, Chesties, flippers etc , I reckon you would find this (below link) very useful. They are very well made, 100 % waterproof, very roomy for ease of access and they are fitted with excellent padded shoulder straps. The biggest is a huge 125 L and it will carry more than most of us could lift ! it only costs £40 . A lot cheaper than the Bergen and far better for Tube etc. I've owned one and can recommend it. :wink:


http://www.northeastkayaks.co.uk/item/17245/palm-river-trek-gear-carrier-?gclid=CN3hjMfDsscCFSsCwwodvyMHXw (http://www.northeastkayaks.co.uk/item/17245/palm-river-trek-gear-carrier-?gclid=CN3hjMfDsscCFSsCwwodvyMHXw)
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Robbie on August 20, 2015, 11:17:45 PM
I figured that my rucksack will be heaviest when I talk the float tube and that this is when I'd get most benefit from a decent pack. Guess I assumed that a better quality pack would be more comfortable and better for carrying heavy loads over longer distances.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 21, 2015, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: Robbie on August 20, 2015, 11:17:45 PM
I figured that my rucksack will be heaviest when I talk the float tube and that this is when I'd get most benefit from a decent pack. Guess I assumed that a better quality pack would be more comfortable and better for carrying heavy loads over longer distances.

I've got to admit this is one of the reasons I bought the bergen was to get to the tarns alot easier with compartments with spare kit too.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 21, 2015, 11:00:26 AM
You have also to consider weight. The bergen is significantly heavier than an ordinary rucksack. I am very impressed with mine but will still use my lighter sack most of the time.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 21, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: admin on August 21, 2015, 11:00:26 AM
You have also to consider weight. The bergen is significantly heavier than an ordinary rucksack. I am very impressed with mine but will still use my lighter sack most of the time.

At my age that doesn't bother me luckily especially after a few years of constantly carrying weight usually around 30 to 40kg wile on tour including body armour it came to 7st.

It's nice to be a civvy and carrying just civilian comfort stuff only brings it up to around 20kg  :lol:
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 21, 2015, 11:38:58 PM
Well Bergen is packed for next weekend in some lowland moors and woodland ive packed it for comfort and not for distance and currently stands at 17.6KG not including my food nor dog food but is packed with water.  Luxury stuff includes a 4 man tent, axe, saw, 2 fishing rods (fly kit and spinning kit) sniper matt, 2ltr kettle, jet boil and other random home comforts.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: corsican dave on August 22, 2015, 08:02:14 AM
Quote from: SoldierPmr on August 21, 2015, 11:38:58 PM
2 fishing rods (fly kit and spinning kit)
i'd say you've over done it on the fishing kit..... :lol:
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 22, 2015, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: SoldierPmr on August 21, 2015, 11:38:58 PM
currently stands at 17.6KG not including my food

:shock:  What are you carrying Liam?   Fishtales manages  a week backpacking in the remote highlands  including all his food for about that weight.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 22, 2015, 02:08:49 PM
Tent takes up a lot of weight as its a big 4 man but I am carrying alsorts I wont Be traveling miles so I've took quite a it of home comforts tools add some weight too. When doing longer trips I'd carry far less weight.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 22, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
A big tent certainly means comfort and convenience. I always take my big Vango if on campsites.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Bobfly on August 22, 2015, 02:24:54 PM
A chap in club has done all the Munros, plus all the Corbetts, plus all the Grahams. We were having a chat on Harris a few weeks ago and I asked him what he reckoned was a good one man tent, expecting him to say a Hilleberg Akto." Straight off he said " The best one man tent you can get is a best lightweight two man tent because you will always need the room".
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Wildfisher on August 22, 2015, 02:35:33 PM
My Terra Nova  Laser Competition   is one man, but it is much roomier than most.   http://www.terra-nova.co.uk/tents-and-spares/all-tents/laser-competition-1-tent/ (http://www.terra-nova.co.uk/tents-and-spares/all-tents/laser-competition-1-tent/)   

Being a side entry tent the porch area is huge. It's very light in the spec well under 1 KG, but that's a con. The titanium pegs are tiny, easy to lose and  next to useless. I would NOT trust them to hold the tent in strong wind. I replaced them with solid aluminum plus I carry a few spares  which knocks the packed tent weight up to 1.3 KG. To be honest it's a backpacking tent, not a mountain tent.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: SoldierPmr on August 22, 2015, 03:17:07 PM
I've had my eye on a Vango tempest 200 for awhile for me and the dog it looks like it would be fine and at 2 to 3kg its nowt to carry I'm sure I'll be giving it a test run this winter.
Title: Re: Heads up on a good deal for a Bergen for life.
Post by: Bobfly on August 22, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
The time of year is coming up for checking on FleaBay for secondhand tents. I got a good Hilleberg not long ago and always worth keeping an eye open. Most folks nearly always take a bit of care with their tents because they want to keep dry, and any decent tent is one that was probably chosen with a bit of care in the first place. Good tents come along because of knackered knees and getting a young family started, and so on, and so on.