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Title: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on June 29, 2017, 08:37:42 PM
Not really my bag, but anyone  going this year?  I believe it's this weekend.  Only £20  to get in plus £5 to park. 
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: superscot on June 29, 2017, 10:37:37 PM
Makes me laugh a fiver to park !
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Robbie on June 29, 2017, 11:20:53 PM
I was considering it as I'd heard that they were revamping fisherman's row, however the website does not sell it well. Then I saw the prices, think i'll take to the hills instead.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on June 30, 2017, 10:25:07 AM
£25 for a few hours amongst the Ruperts & Torquils and their tail-free spaniels at the Scottish game fair or £16 for a day ticket on The Don at Kildrummy?

Mmmmm, let me see now,  have to think about that one  :think2 
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Mark on June 30, 2017, 10:31:59 AM
I'll not be going, it only encourages them to wear more tweed. Paying for the privilege must be a form of self harm.

As for spaniels, as Irvine Welsh said' Nicky Sturgeon Puppy surgeon' has a 'Margaret Thatcher Milk Snatcher' ring to it
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on June 30, 2017, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: Mark on June 30, 2017, 10:31:59 AM
I'll not be going, it only encourages them to wear more tweed.

Quite wise IMO. It's supposed to be very scratchy against the skin. Of course I could also go and watch someone tie elaborate flies  I would never use from outrageously expensive materials, but The Don at Klldrummy is still looking like the better buy.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Mark on June 30, 2017, 10:41:51 AM
Could be a good day to go fishing right enough. All the Tweed lovers will be at the game fair

I suppose you'll have to try out your rod too, someone has to do it :D
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on June 30, 2017, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: Mark on June 30, 2017, 10:41:51 AM
I suppose you'll have to try out your rod too, someone has to do it :D

Indeed. However I might be missing out on the chance of material for tying that timeless salmon fishing favourte The Spaniel's Tail.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Robbie on June 30, 2017, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: admin on June 30, 2017, 10:25:07 AM
£25 for a few hours amongst the Ruperts & Torquils and their tail-free spaniels at the Scottish game fair or £16 for a day ticket on The Don at Kildrummy?

Mmmmm, let me see now,  have to think about that one  :think2

The distinctly derogatory tone to this applies and very broad brush to a group of people with contains a great number of very pleasant and likable people. Posts of this nature possible say more about the author than they do about the subject.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: corsican dave on June 30, 2017, 02:06:26 PM
well for what it's worth, i think we're going...

the forecast isn't wonderful and we're a bit fed up with damp & cold gardening. so it'll be interesting to see if they have managed to re-vamp it. either way, i'm sure we'll have fun. even if it only provides me with the opportunity to be scathingly derogatory afterwards!  :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Mark on June 30, 2017, 02:19:16 PM
Quote from: Robbie on June 30, 2017, 01:55:45 PM
The distinctly derogatory tone to this applies and very broad brush to a group of people with contains a great number of very pleasant and likable people. Posts of this nature possible say more about the author than they do about the subject.


I agree  :D :D
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on June 30, 2017, 04:36:02 PM
I used to go but stopped bothering when they cancelled this event. Not worth going now.  :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqObJtGrKaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqObJtGrKaA)
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Mark on June 30, 2017, 10:51:18 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Robbie on July 01, 2017, 07:24:33 PM
Just been told by my better half that entry to the Royal Highland Show was £28 per adult and parking was an additional £8.  Maybe the game fair isn't such poor value.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: corsican dave on July 01, 2017, 08:31:56 PM
well, i can report that the Scottish Game Fair today was a completely different event to the travesty it had developed into over the past decade. the last one we went to was like a rather shoddy garden fete & would have made Fred's descriptions seem complimentary.

whoever is behind the organisation of this one deserves a huge pat on the back & i hope it was successful for them. we really enjoyed ourselves and didn't begrudge the entry fee at all.

it was well laid out and looked every inch a professional event. there were distinct rows of stands, generally rows had a common sort of a theme and there were some pretty big names (haarkila for instance)

fishermans row had a good feel to it and was attended by a good variety of trade & organizations. there were two areas for casting demos (so popular that it was difficult to get a seat in the stand) and the tackle providers had their own (easily accessible) casting areas

good quality food was available and there was a huge range of demonstrations from falconry to log-splitting. the cookery theatre was far more popular than the organizers had expected and could easily have been tripled in size

the traffic management was nothing short of amazing. we arrived at 1130 by which time it was pretty busy. but we drove straight in behind about a dozen vehicles all trundling nicely along at 5mph. no dramas. on the way out at 1700 we were expecting chaos, but no; we were straight out. managed by police & an events management company.

i suppose the best compliment i can pay is that we were there for over 5 hours and when we left we were still keen for more, but we'd had a full day... we will be back next year & i hope it gets even better

ps i picked up a signed copy of John Gierach's latest book. sadly the author wasn't around for a chat....  :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 01, 2017, 08:46:53 PM
Sounds like a great day Dave.   Was there anything in the displays about the cull of  hen harriers and other raptors the event organisers, The Game & Wildlife Conservation Trust, are proposing?

https://www.gwct.org.uk/blogs/news/2017/june/gwct-respond-to-hen-harrier-survey-results/ (https://www.gwct.org.uk/blogs/news/2017/june/gwct-respond-to-hen-harrier-survey-results/)





Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: corsican dave on July 01, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
 :lol:

can't say it was something i was looking for, to be honest Fred. the Police Wildlife Crime Unit had a good display and folks seemed to be engaging with them.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 01, 2017, 09:01:52 PM
That's a pity Dave,   The  Game & Wildlife Conservation Trust have missed a really great opportunity   to bring this to the attention of the visiting public. Perhaps it was just an oversight.   :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Laxdale on July 01, 2017, 09:23:05 PM
Surprised you were not there manning a stall with the RPUK twonks and the Greens Fred. I am sure the captive audience would have been very receptive to their views.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 01, 2017, 09:32:27 PM
Events like that are not really my glass of Dom Pérignon Gordon. I do think however that it is a real shame The  Game & Wildlife Conservation Trust missed the opportunity  to bring their proposed grouse moor raptor cull to the attention of the visiting public.  Never mind though, there are many other organisations out there working on that right now.   :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: corsican dave on July 01, 2017, 09:34:22 PM
i never said it wasn't there Fred  :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 01, 2017, 09:41:05 PM
Ah, right, then that makes more sense Dave. You may have just missed it.   The  Game & Wildlife Conservation Trust are probably very keen to keep the public abreast of developments on the grouse moor raptor cull proposal front.  :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: corsican dave on July 01, 2017, 09:44:13 PM
as a responsible & environmentally sensitive body i don't doubt it, Fred  :8)
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Laxdale on July 01, 2017, 09:46:06 PM
Bet the blokes at the SNH tent who are there to explain licencing policy are having a fun weekend......
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 01, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
I thought as a salmon fisher and shooter you might have been there yourself Gordon? 
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Laxdale on July 01, 2017, 10:04:16 PM
I would rather go fishing or shooting if I have the time.
Despite being a dairy farmer for 30+ years, I never went to an agricultural show either.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 01, 2017, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: Laxdale on July 01, 2017, 10:04:16 PM
Despite being a dairy farmer for 30+ years, I never went to an agricultural show either.

When we had the nursery I used to go to certain plant shows and take a trade stand.  A nice little earner as Arthur Daley would have said.  :8)
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Bobfly on July 02, 2017, 12:35:37 AM
A couple of years ago the SNH tent had a map of Central and across Tayside to show the whole Tay catchment and the beaver locations which then went from the Falls of Leny up to Kinloch Rannoch. I wonder what the current mapping shows ...... ???
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 02, 2017, 08:03:48 AM
Beavers are  at least as far east as Forfar Loch Vaughan. It's just a matter of time before they are in The Esks and Lunan catchments.  They may do some harm and they may do good either way game preservation interests are going to complain;  the elected Scottish government has decided to protect them and this has to be accepted.  On The Lunan the actions of farmers cause far more alterations to banks and to natural flows in a day than an army of beavers  could in a lifetime.  Beavers had nothing to do with the recent destruction of the salmon spawning grounds and fine pools on The Bervie at Mondynes.  It should be kept in perspective.
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: corsican dave on July 02, 2017, 09:29:54 AM
the game fair was great! i had a lovely day out with my wife  :D
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Bobfly on July 02, 2017, 11:24:53 PM
 I am not bothered one way or another about the beavers. I was rather amused though that whilst one sector was discussing the importance of the Argyll "study experiment" of ten especially imported animals (after quarantine losses and one disappearing) there were 200 available in Tayside that needed no new public funding for their study  :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: hopper on July 02, 2017, 11:41:41 PM
It would be great to see a couple of beavers on the Bervie building their dam just below the old bridge at Mondynes and flood out the clown that stays there, at least he couldn't damage their dam.   :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 03, 2017, 08:47:37 AM
Quote from: Bobfly on July 02, 2017, 11:24:53 PM
I was rather amused though that whilst one sector was discussing the importance of the Argyll "study experiment" of ten especially imported animals (after quarantine losses and one disappearing) there were 200 available in Tayside that needed no new public funding for their study  :roll: :roll:

Welcome tae Scoatlund, wha's like us?   :lol: 
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: corsican dave on July 03, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
Quote from: claretbumble on July 03, 2017, 09:37:21 AM
Back on topic .... sounds like a good day out, Dave  :D We went to Mela Festival for Indian music, dance, theatre and some top, top curries ..... also a decent day out, and we never saw a beaver or hen-harrier either!!!
it was a VERY good day out Liam! i will be sending the organizers an e-mail to compliment them & hopefully ensure it continues in the same vein going forwards. too many folks are quick to complain about stuff but not so quick to praise....
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 03, 2017, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: hopper on July 02, 2017, 11:41:41 PM
It would be great to see a couple of beavers on the Bervie building their dam just below the old bridge at Mondynes and flood out the clown that stays there, at least he couldn't damage their dam.   

Might be worth doing a bit of large rodent stocking  there Eric, in the name of biodiversity.   :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Wildfisher on July 03, 2017, 04:00:36 PM
Anyway, back on topic.

(https://raptorpersecutionscotland.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/mountain-hare-cull-angus-glens-large-copy.jpg)

(https://raptorpersecutionscotland.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/hares_angusglens_feb2015_113-hares-killed-driven-shooting.jpg)
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: loch coulter on July 03, 2017, 09:18:28 PM
Quote from: admin on July 03, 2017, 04:00:36 PM
Anyway, back on topic.

(https://raptorpersecutionscotland.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/mountain-hare-cull-angus-glens-large-copy.jpg)

(https://raptorpersecutionscotland.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/hares_angusglens_feb2015_113-hares-killed-driven-shooting.jpg)
just f*****g sick :x
Title: Re: Scottish Game Fair
Post by: Part-time on July 04, 2017, 12:03:45 AM
Quote from: corsican dave on July 03, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
it was a VERY good day out Liam! i will be sending the organizers an e-mail to compliment them & hopefully ensure it continues in the same vein going fowards. too many folks are quick to complain about stuff but not so quick to praise....

Glad to hear it was a good day out Dave. I've not been to Scone or any of the other shows for years - may take a look next year. Not that bothered about the price - £15 to £20 + parking, seems pretty much the going rate for any large trade/hobby event these days.

Not everything is sweetness and light to do with shooting etc, but there is much more to it than just the stereotypes and illegal/bad practice - same as with fishing. Salmon fishing Ruperts in range rovers, calls for otter/cormorant culls, neds leaving crap at roadside lochs, wildlife wrapped in fishing line all exist but it wouldn't be fair to say that's all there is to fishing and fisherman and that we're all fine with it.