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Title: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Lochan_load on August 11, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
Gualin estate that includes the river dionard up for grabs, how he other half live eh?

https://blog.fishpal.com/2017/08/11/highland-sporting-estate-for-sale/
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Robbie on August 11, 2017, 01:41:46 PM
Everyone need a dream.
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 02:05:25 PM
I would not be selling permits to or encouraging the visiting  Proles.

So no management strategy  changes there then   :lol:
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Laxdale on August 11, 2017, 02:28:45 PM
A year or two ago someone on SFF declared Loch Dionard to be the best sea trout loch in Scotland.
I enquired if he had fished all the sea trout lochs in Scotland.
It went downhill from there.  :D
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: Laxdale on August 11, 2017, 02:28:45 PM
It went downhill from there.  :D

I can imagine;  but so has the  Dionard, it's not what it was. For a start  some of the vandals  who have owned it over more recent years have bulldozed a road up what was a pristine glen, only accessible by foot,  to facilitate access by modern fat arsed, lazy bastards of salmon fishers and pretend stalkers. It was not like that when Commander Fergusson owned it. Everything gets reduced to the lowest common denominator.

I have posted this before, but here is a grand tale  by Seton Gordon of salmon  fishing on the Dionard before it was vandalized.

http://www.wildfisher.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6722.msg61035#msg61035
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Lochan_load on August 11, 2017, 04:57:34 PM
I'll read that later Fred, the lochs somewhere I want to fish at some point. There is also a bothy of some sort at the Loch so you can stay there overnight, sure it's a bit more than a bothy if the road being put in is anything to go by. Not sure about access to fishing.....
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Laxdale on August 11, 2017, 05:21:45 PM
The loch is one beat on the fishing rotation with the option of staying overnight in the bothy.
It is popular as the loch is usually in play when the river is bone dry.
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 05:49:31 PM
I think you are right Gordon. it's always been  very exclusive fishing .

Andy -you will enjoy that story - written in the 1940s about fishing in the early part of the 20th Century. Seton Gordon was IMO one of the very best Scottish outdoor men and writers, I just hope his work will be remembered.
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Laxdale on August 11, 2017, 05:56:18 PM
It is not very exclusive....there were two groups of guys (read bunch of pissheads) from SFF going every year, and one group form the Lewis too (thy did really well this year).
As with all that sort of fishing, you have to get a group together then get your foot in the door.
A hell of a lot cheaper than a week on a big river too.
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 06:21:13 PM
Have you looked at the promotional video in the sales link?  Well produced but ridiculous. Why would anyone want use a 15 foot double handed salmon rod on what is really just a burn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavYvQy0vKU
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: claretbumble on August 11, 2017, 06:13:01 PM
When the road went in, that stopped.

Spoil sports.  :lol:
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Laxdale on August 11, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: claretbumble on August 11, 2017, 06:13:01 PM
I know a certain group, who used to hike over the hill on a Saturday afternoon, stay in the bothy (the key was easily found), spin it all day Sunday, and take out as many fish as they as they could physically carry. They did it one October weekend every year for decades... never got caught. When the road went in, that stopped.

Reminds me of the yarn about the local worthy who told the Hamanaway keeper (the day he was leaving) that he used to poach Dibidale all the time and that the keeper had never caught him. "I used to sit watching the fat bastard through the rifle scope" was what the keeper told me once the plonker had moved on.
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 06:57:02 PM
£2.6 million is not bad actually. You would have to pay that for some of the bigger, posher  houses in Aberdeen.   :D
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: corsican dave on August 11, 2017, 08:08:01 PM
i have to say that if i had £2.6M i'd buy a rather nice house in Extremadura and spend the rest bumming around the world with a fly rod...  :8)

which is why i'll never have £2.6M, of course  :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 08:11:22 PM
Right now you could probably buy  Extremadura  for £2.6M. You have already paid for the motorway network, so why not just take a job  lot?    :lol:
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: corsican dave on August 11, 2017, 08:16:48 PM
aye, & i'd get the lynx chucked in for free! result!  :8)
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: corsican dave on August 11, 2017, 08:28:14 PM
we did see one, once. well we think it was a lynx, it was a bit difficult to tell
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Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Lochan_load on August 11, 2017, 09:01:05 PM
Read that report (if you can call it that) Fred, very good. No sense of sport back then....the fish has got off after an epic battle and sits recovering in the tail "tally ho ginger, gaff the bugger!"
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 11, 2017, 09:42:46 PM
Aye and they wonder why there are next to no salmon left. Every fish caught was  gaffed and / or clubbed to death
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Hoolet on August 11, 2017, 09:46:50 PM
Read a lot of Seaton Gordon's stuff in my teens, His exploits on the Fionn Loch really gripped my teenage mind and I walked in to fish there the following May...still one of my favourite memories of my trout fishing days, good sized fish that fought like buggery !

Hoolet
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: loch coulter on August 13, 2017, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: admin on August 11, 2017, 04:31:54 PM
I can imagine;  but so has the  Dionard, it's not what it was. For a start  some of the vandals  who have owned it over more recent years have bulldozed a road up what was a pristine glen, only accessible by foot,  to facilitate access by modern fat arsed, lazy bastards of salmon fishers and pretend stalkers. It was not like that when Commander Fergusson owned it. Everything gets reduced to the lowest common denominator.

I have posted this before, but here is a grand tale  by Seton Gordon of salmon  fishing on the Dionard before it was vandalized.

http://www.wildfisher.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6722.msg61035#msg61035
Lovely piece of writing, especially the bit about roses in December :)
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: superscot on August 13, 2017, 05:03:36 PM
Fished the Dionard river and loch many years ago when able and fit to do so, at some point the loch was shared between Gualin Estate &  Gobernuisgach Lodge and only through asking were we granted permission from Donald McDonald the keeper at the time at Gobernuisgach Lodge I have to say it was mostly midweek fishing as the people who had the lease on Gober and Loch Dionard fished it most weekends during the season. We always did the long walk in from the Gober end up Glen Golly and over Creag Staonsaid towards Loch Dionard. Nice hut/bothy but we always took our own tent in. Fair auld walk it was ........knackered when you eventually got there. Occasionally stopped off on route and fished a couple of lochs on route which shall remain nameless just check the route from the lodge to the loch and will not take  much to work out the lochs in question .............all we will say was pleasantly surprised ! Don't think the lochs had come across many fishers in a long while. If I mind back the lease on Gober was to a business man from the Edinburgh area and talked to him on the odd occasion ( full marbles in the mouth brigade ) only as he wished a wee report on how we were doing. Had all the trips from fish caught to weather and dates till a certain spaniel decided that the book seemed something good to chew and eat !!! Many memories passed oot its bloody arse, for trout fishing some fantastic lochs in and around that area. Hey, ask you might just get permission !

Would I buy it if I had the cash and money was no object you bet I would and of course invite all you lads to fish it for free     :D :D

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Gober Lodge     
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 13, 2017, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: superscot on August 13, 2017, 05:03:36 PM
Would I buy it if I had the cash and money was no object you bet I would and of course invite all you lads to fish it for free     :D :D

Can I have first shot at Heather Point?   :lol:
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Laxdale on August 13, 2017, 05:34:06 PM
Barry Stewart or something like that was the guys name.
Used to be chairman of the fishery board up here. A toff, but not a bad lad.
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 13, 2017, 05:36:25 PM
Quote from: Laxdale on August 13, 2017, 05:34:06 PM
A toff, but not a bad lad.

I know one or two very decent toffs.
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: superscot on August 13, 2017, 06:26:13 PM
QuoteBarry Stewart or something like that was the guys name.

Thats the very man .

Also remember the lease on the estate  coming up a few years back £20k a year if i mind !!!! nice if you have it
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Hoolet on August 13, 2017, 08:44:34 PM
The lodge would make a good base for us, we should mibbees club together for ourselves... keep out the riff raff

Hoolet
Title: Re: If only i had a spare 2.6 million!
Post by: Wildfisher on August 13, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: Hoolet on August 13, 2017, 08:44:34 PM
... keep out the riff raff

Aye, wi dinnae waant ony  o them    :D