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Title: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: Wildfisher on October 15, 2021, 09:12:36 AM
There was an interesting article in this months FF&FT or was it T&S? Can't remember.

The hypotheses was that only some salmon are genetically predisposed to occasional feeding in fresh water, these are the fish anglers catch and until relatively recently they were all killed.

Result - these fish don't breed, the taking trait is not passed on and there are fewer and fewer catchable salmon in our rivers.

Is this fact or fiction?
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: burnie on October 15, 2021, 10:23:54 AM
Sounds like Horlix to me, I have never killed a Salmon, but talking to someone who has a large fish smoker and has processed a lot of Salmon and Sea trout, he told me he often found food in the stomachs of Sea Trout, but never in a Salmon.
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: arawa on October 15, 2021, 10:49:18 AM
The article is in this month's FF&FT.
Some years ago I read a similar article arguing this was the reason there were (apparently) fewer free-rising trout taking dries.
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: Wildfisher on October 15, 2021, 10:55:24 AM
The guy openly admits it's just a theory with no peer reviewed  evidence.

Good one for some post grad. fisheries scientist doing a PhD?
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: Bobfly on October 15, 2021, 03:07:19 PM
There is completely undeniable logic to this theory. It explains why it is that big fat trout that are really hard to catch got that big by not eating. Also, average sized trout eat a lot but do not get big and are easily caught. These smaller ones get put back to then eat lots more, but still do not grow.  :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: Wildfisher on October 15, 2021, 03:22:26 PM
But the counter argument is no one is denying salmon eat, they all eat in the sea whereas trout can only eat in fresh water - unless of course they are sea trout.  :lol:
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: Bobfly on October 15, 2021, 06:34:30 PM
Clearly, big fat uncatchable trout are sustained by magic water. Catchable smaller trout do not live in magic water.
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: Hoolet on October 15, 2021, 07:18:07 PM
Sorry but....

https://youtu.be/ASvYzbIysAY

Hoolet
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: Wildfisher on October 15, 2021, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: Hoolet on October 15, 2021, 07:18:07 PM
Sorry but....
I'm not so sure George. It was in FF&FT so it's hard to believe it could be wrong.   :lol:
Title: Re: Anglers Killed All The Salmon?
Post by: emc on October 20, 2021, 11:30:49 AM
Compulsory C&R. Be a long study though! A lifetimes work.