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Braided Loops

Started by Wildfisher, June 21, 2005, 04:24:33 PM

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Wildfisher

Some questions here.

1. What are the advantages over simply stripping back the coating on your line, whipping it with tying thread then sealing it with some super glue? Such a  loop will hold the weight of a small elephant, never mind a trout.

2. Can anyone honestly claim to have ever managed to fit a braided loop without going totally nuts?

3. Would anyone trust them not to come off without using super glue?

4. If you have to glue them (as in 3) , why not just use the loop back method (as in 1 above)?

Fishtales

Quote from: adminSome questions here.

1. What are the advantages over simply stripping back the coating on your line, whipping it with tying thread then sealing it with some super glue? Such a  loop will hold the weight of a small elephant, never mind a trout.

Good idea, but the braided loop is quicker.

Quote from: admin2. Can anyone honestly claim to have ever managed to fit a braided loop without going totally nuts?

Yes. I make my own too :P

Quote from: admin3. Would anyone trust them not to come off without using super glue?

Yes. They only come off when they harden and loose the "chinese finger" effect. Super glue does this too so when the glue fails the loop flies off.

Quote from: admin4. If you have to glue them (as in 3) , why not just use the loop back method (as in 1 above)?


I have never glued mine I just use the piece of clear tubing that came with the originals. If for some reason the joint sticks in the top ring when I am puling the line through at the beginning of the day I will check to see if the tubing has moved , it very rarely has and most times I don't even bother. The present loop has been on for a few seasons now and has been fine (I will need to check it now because sod's law says it will fail next time out) :)
Don't worry, be happy.
Sandy
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Wildfisher

Sandy, I have to admit to a small measure of ?tongue in cheek?  in this topic, but these things are a bit of a bugger to fit and I don?t thrust them ever since I bought  a new salmon fly line with one pre-fitted and it came  off as I was tugging a snagged fly free of  the bank-side vegetation. Another thing -  why do they always have  to be fluorescent  green  or bright orange?  What?s wrong with good old fashioned dull boring colours these days?  :lol:

Fishtales

I broke a Braided salmon leader trying to unsnag a salmon fly and that was using a braided loop, the loop never moved :)

I make mine from hollow braided backing which is white, but I do have orange tubing if I need it :)
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V-4

Don't try and fit them at the river/loch side!
Do it at home in the comfort of your living room with good light. I've always used them and never had one budge yet - but I do use super glue! Two reasons for the glue - one- it's a belt and braces thing and 2 it stops the top end of the braid fraying and splaying out which can snag the leader and lead to some awful tangles.
Take the wee piece of clear plastic tube as close to the end as you can and then bab of glue either side is enough.
If your having trouble finding the hole in the middle of the braid try and cut it at a 45 degree angle - it makes it a bit 'bigger' in my opinion.

Fishtales

Quote from: V-4
Take the wee piece of clear plastic tube as close to the end as you can and then dab of glue either side is enough.
If your having trouble finding the hole in the middle of the braid try and cut it at a 45 degree angle - it makes it a bit 'bigger' in my opinion.

Take it all the way to the end and cover the frayed bit :)

Paint the frayed bit black and think of a friend, or get new reading glasses :)
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lnelson20

Quote from: adminSome questions here.

1. What are the advantages over simply stripping back the coating on your line, whipping it with tying thread then sealing it with some super glue? Such a  loop will hold the weight of a small elephant, never mind a trout.

2. Can anyone honestly claim to have ever managed to fit a braided loop without going totally nuts?

3. Would anyone trust them not to come off without using super glue?

4. If you have to glue them (as in 3) , why not just use the loop back method (as in 1 above)?
I'm with you here Fred,although i still use the braid and sleeve,your suggestion or whip the braid with thread and superglue,the problem i have here is i like 18 feet between fly line and point,so when you hook a fish on the point you tend to back up and try and beach the fish[not alway's possible]without pulling the sleeve through the tip ring which could damage your rod,especially if the fish has a last lunge in him,lost many fish in the past trying to beach them,and don't think it does them much good ither getting dragged up the bank :oops: Have to have a look at changing this myself
All the best lads
Look north
Chris.
c.nelson

Fishtales

I use between 15 and 20 feet between fly line and point fly and have never had any problems landing fish, and I land them by hand :)

Don't worry, be happy.
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lnelson20

Quote from: fishtalesI use between 15 and 20 feet between fly line and point fly and have never had any problems landing fish, and I land them by hand :)

Dangerous game grabbing the cast Sandy,is it not :wink: and anyway,that Nam Ban fish look's quite tame :wink:  :D I will have a go at the hand line method and see how i get on,we will alway's lose the odd fish whatever we do anyway,
Cheer's Sandy,all the best.
Chris.
c.nelson

lnelson20

I read somwhere that those Nam Ban fish are difficult to tempt Sandy,but are well worth the catching,is it true that it has superb but difficult to catch trout,that's certainly a nice one there,have you fished this loch much :? and how did you get on on other occasions :D
All the best
Chris
[Nosey fisherman] :D
c.nelson

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