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[Fishtales]

I'm being facetious guys

It just seems that when these threads come up most of the things that are seen as taboo I do, did I say I also use a braided loop and leader I have tried just about everything over the past forty years and dismissed a lot of it as time wasting crap. I just use what I have always used and catch, or not, fish. The main thing is I come back relaxed and in a better frame of mind to tackle the everyday tasks that make up most of my life. Did I also mention we stand on high banks over clear water watching fish chase a nymph on the end of a line hanging straight down from the rod tip out over the water in bright sunshine

The pictures to show it

He chased it one way.

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He followed it another.

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He went for the dry fly instead

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I also fished the Clyde a lot years ago for trout and Grayling with the same gear

[deergravy]

Fair do's, Sandy, no offence
I just don't think it does to be too set in ones ways, and dismissive of others.

Flat calm on a summer evening. A large fish is rising in front of me. Do I want a 7wt and team of three flies on 5lb maxima?
I do not.

[Traditionalist]

I'm being facetious guys

It just seems that when these threads come up most of the things that are seen as taboo I do, did I say I also use a braided loop and leader

Although some might,( indeed almost certainly will!   ), disagree, it's only really the same "magic bullet" type thinking that persuades people to keep buying new rods in the belief,( actually forlorn hope), that they will then cast better. Of course they wont.

When you see the gut casts of yesteryear they look like hawser compared to modern nylon monofilament, and the good anglers caught plenty of fish using them.

Also, as you quite rightly point out, it's not just about catching bagfulls of fish.

TL
MC

[Traditionalist]

Flat calm on a summer evening. A large fish is rising in front of me. Do I want a 7wt and team of three flies on 5lb maxima?
I do not.

Possibly not, but if that's what you have, you make the best of it, and it will work often enough.

It's not really a case of being "dismissive" of other things. I have no doubt that many here have tried a great number of things over the years. As a result, they know that many such things wont make much difference at all to your catch rates, or your general enjoyment.

TL
MC

[Fishtales]

Been there, done that. I did change the middle dropper #12 Iron Blue Dun for a #18 Caenis Nymph though and swapped the dry and the nymph around then Mucilined the leader and cast so that it all stayed on the top and the wets fished just sub-surface on three inch droppers

Maybe I don't catch as many fish as I should and trying all these methods would improve my catches, but do I really want all that hassle when I know that what I am doing works anyway? :dunno

[Allan Crawford]

Did I forget to mention the braided loop, should be called relaxing not fishing, but it doesnt hurt to try to improve things if you want to, gives us something to think about when not fishing and hopefully more fullfillment should it work, if I fish with less hassle, flies tangling up etc, I will be more relaxed and enjoy it better. Anyway 5lb maxima for all round loch fishing is hard to beat !

[Fishtales]

That may be so Alan. I have caught fish with my setup with the flies static too. Both on the dry fly and the nymph. This was in a flat calm, in bright sun on a gin clear alkaline loch. It works for me and I stick with it because it does. It took fifteen or so years to get to that point and I have been using it for the past twenty five. I don't see me changing soon The average fish was half a pound the one on the static nymph was a pound and a half. I wouldn't have got it if I hadn't seen the dry fly twitch from side to side on the surface as the line itself never moved and I never felt a thing

This was the place.

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I missed this one.

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This was the fish before I returned it.

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[Allan Crawford]

A 3lber from the above loch will be no more clever than this fish.
Will be unlucky to see more than one cast of flies from one year till the next.
Different if the loch in question is fished hard.

[Fishtales]

Alan

The missed fish I covered for ten minutes and missed it to the wet fly half a dozen times, not once did it come for the dry nor did I put it down, I moved on eventually and left it in peace I just go and fish. Different loch or river they are treated the same. The only fish I target are the fish that are there. My heaviest fish on a fly was three pounds, my average is six ounces, they are all still just fish and each is treasured the same. Some are remembered more than others, normally because of the manner of capture, something stands out that makes them memorable. Even just seeing, covering and deceiving the fish to attempt to take my fly is enough to satisfy me that I have succeeded in what I set out to do, actually catching it is the icing of course, but that's just me

[Malcolm]

I do all my loch dry fly fishing with 7lb bs copolymer - that's 2x. Seems to work well for me, I'm happy to use the same nylon on the Clyde but will go down a bit to 5lb bs for smaller flies. I use even heavier standard nylon for sunk line fishing on Loch Leven.