The middle section of my Greys has broken again on casting. But this time the top section has stuck like glue to the
middle section. Any tips or hints on how to disengage these two.
Davie
I think we've had this type of problem before on here!
I still have a very old 3 piece coarse rod that suffers with the same problem now and again. This rod is fitted with brass ferrules between sections. If I remember then I'll put WD40 or some vaseline on from time to time.
However if it does get stuck then if I hold a match or cigarette lighter underneath the joint then there's generally enough expansion to allow them to release.
This may not work with carbon fibre though! I don't think it takes kindly to a naked flame. You could try pouring hot water on it though, that should cause some expansion, enough to seperate the two.
Good luck.
Regards, Tim
Harelug suffered from this problem once too. He showed me a way that worked for him.
It involves putting the rod behind your back and squatting like a weightlifter with the rod behind your knees. Take hold of each section and pull ( I think he used a rod bag to grip the sections). I can't remember the thory behind it, but it might work in your case.
Alex
Quote from: haresear on August 18, 2007, 02:13:00 PM
It involves putting the rod behind your back and squatting like a weightlifter
They say that squatting like a Sumo wrester works better with Japanese rods :D
If you can unscrew the but section push a cane or similar up inside the rod. Careful not to use anything with sharp incase you weaken the rod.
Alan
QuoteNearly Alex; rod behind your knees and hold it with your hands on the outside of your knees. Open your legs and it pushes your hands (and the rod sections) apart.
I think it was Pearly that came up with that one.
That must be it. Thanks Steve.
Alex
Do I still have to squat like a sumo wrestler :P
Davie
(Shame the video camera is away furra service)
QuoteNearly Alex; rod behind your knees and hold it with your hands on the outside of your knees. Open your legs and it pushes your hands (and the rod sections) apart.
I think it was Pearly that came up with that one.
I've known this trick for years, Don't use a rod bag to grip the rod as Alex suggested in an earlier post, make sure both the rod and your hands are dry. If hands still tend to slip try using a bit or rubber sheet, eg. inner tube to grip the rod sections.
Quote from: harelug on August 18, 2007, 08:43:23 PM
QuoteNearly Alex; rod behind your knees and hold it with your hands on the outside of your knees. Open your legs and it pushes your hands (and the rod sections) apart.
I think it was Pearly that came up with that one.
I've known this trick for years, Don't use a rod bag to grip the rod as Alex suggested in an earlier post, make sure both the rod and your hands are dry. If hands still tend to slip try using a bit or rubber sheet, eg. inner tube to grip the rod sections.
Latex gloves :wink:
Mmmm... Latex gloves......
.D.
It's now fixed thanks. Not by the sumo method or the hot water, both tried but to no avail. Ultimately it was the cross hand technique. I will try and explain :shock:
Instead of two people pulling away from each other, you take hold of the section furthest away from you and you push apart rather than pull apart. It came away first time tho it might have been the sumo and hot water helping.
Again thank you even tho the post started to degenerate -D- :P
Davie
Surgical gloves, one either side of the join. First tried it a few years ago and it has NEVER failed me since. I now always carry a pair in the bag. And of course, if you've got your surgical gloves with you then you know that you are prepared for ANY eventuality. :shock:, or perhaps :twisted:. Then again, if you and your fishing buddy are really, really close friends then it might even be :D
Greenwell
Its no just Hardy's Davy,
Fossil fly rods from the states are very light but you just overload the rod a touch and the sections break. The worst is using Gold or tungsten headed flies one crack on the passing cast and its all over - you'd be in Sh*te if the sections got stuck trying to separate them would be a surgical procedure. Must say though that they cast lovely with a light line.
Sandy B.O.
Glad of your comments guys, especially Davy. Not great to lose faith in a rod especially when it is not particularly cheap.
It cast very well, handles fish very well and breaks easily, so when you go fishing you have to make sure of a reserve rod.
I have asked Greys if there is an inherent fault in these rods and I guess they will say no. The rod section was replaced in
May under guarantee (no cost) after considerable fuss. They also tried the "you didn't register within 21 days" rule but
again, I had registered the same day as purchase on their website as instructed. The only people who couldn't see my
registration was Greys, but again sorted after more fuss. So I am hoping this section is again replaced free of charge.
I also have a greys waistcoat and all I can say is don't get water in the pockets, coz they dont empty themselves.
My wading jacket seems to be the dogs doo das, so thank goodness something works.
Davie
My brother in law returned a greys traveller 5 piece rod as one section was badly cracked and the all the others had hairline cracks. It was returned with one section repaired and a report that the others were fine.
Aye, I have had trouble with my Grey's Platinum X - mid section has snapped twice in the cast but I have to say I have had no trouble getting the section repaired - at a cost!
I also have a Greys Streamflex, (10ft 4 weight) which is a lovely light rod and so far, touch wood, has been fine. I suppose time will tell.
Norm
From a practical point of view the good rods of 15 years ago were much better:
for most purposes they cast just as well (and for short distances I would argue that glass fibre is better than even the best modern rods) and were far more robust. The weight differential is negligible especially on the shorter rods. The only faults I have had on rods were on two Hardy rods both very expensive very light, and good to cast. BUT, only very little lighter and no better to cast with than my 1991 David Norwich 4 piece and it has shrugged off little accidents that I am certain would have knackered the more modern rods.
New clothes? What about you Emperor old mate? Very light...
2 airflow classics a 9ft and 10ft also a three piece airflow delta, had them a good few yrs now no problems apart from the delta has a habit of coming apart occ. at the top joint-- its always a wee fear as it disappears into a peaty loch
Have a Greys GRXi rod nae had it a year and now the bottom and middle section joint keeps coming loose. Had a Daiwa whisker before that it never gave any problem only changed because the whisker was starting to become a heavy rod after a full days lashing.
Sent the bits of the middle section that they ask for (top and bottom 4 inches !!!?????) on Monday night and I was
pleasantly surprised that the section arrived Thursday morning. No arguments no charges but no answer to my question
is it an inherent fault. All joints now candle waxed. Probably lose the top two sections now in some extra deep loch :lol:
Thanks for posts
Davie
Ah yes ..... the old stuck rod joints. :gay4
Actually the easiest way to get these apart is 'ice.' Take a square of alum foil and fill it with ice cubes. Wrap this around the stuck joint and give it about 10 minutes; the joint will slip right apart.
Next take the left over ice cubes, put in cut glass tumbler, add ............ Well this IS a Scotland based board. :D
Quote from: fredaevans on December 21, 2007, 10:06:25 PM
Next take the left over ice cubes, put in cut glass tumbler, add ............ Well this IS a Scotland based board. :D
Only one thing you should ever put in whisky .....that's more whisky :D
welcome to the forum!
Quote from: admin on December 21, 2007, 10:08:34 PM
Only one thing you should ever put in whisky .....that's more whisky :D
welcome to the forum!
Thank you and Point made, Point taken ... one possible exception: Whisky is spelled with an 'e' and made on
this side of the Pond. (No way do you want to screw up Bushnell's.)
Quote from: fredaevans on December 21, 2007, 11:09:03 PM
Thank you and Point made, Point taken ... one possible exception: Whisky is spelled with an 'e' and made on this side of the Pond. (No way do you want to screw up Bushnell's.)
Our Irish brothers spell it that way too. :D
Quote from: admin on December 21, 2007, 11:14:49 PM
Our Irish brothers spell it that way too. :D
My 'child-like' education continues. :sorry2
Alan, with few exceptions, I couldn't agree more. A Bourbon/Mash man I'm not. But if you get a chance to try Knob Hill is darned good.
Fred