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Title: Jetboil
Post by: Wildfisher on March 28, 2021, 12:49:24 PM
Was thinking about buying a Jetboil or perhaps a Clone-Boil. :lol:

I want something light and compact

Anyone got a recommendation ?

Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: caorach on March 28, 2021, 01:30:33 PM
I have the MSR Windburner Fred and all I can say is it has always worked for me and is, indeed, relatively capable in the wind.

The problem with asking opinions for a lot of this stuff is that people have owned one, but not all of them, and so can really only tell you what the one they own is like and clearly I'm in the same position. All I can say is that it has worked for me and I find that it does seem better than anything else I have (several other MSR stoves plus Crusader and the likes) in the wind. It also remains pretty efficient in the wind whereas some of the stoves I have take for ever to boil. It isn't super lightweight and I guess it also isn't super compact but I actually find the decent water capacity useful as I would often use the freeze dried type meals and they get through a lot of water so when you add a cup of tea on top you are probably getting close to the 1l capacity. The design is pretty well thought out though sometimes the slide on handle/cosy thing can be a little bit annoying but I'm told the Windburner has the best one of those so it might be the best of a bad job.  I guess the other down side is they are expensive but I've had a lot of cups of tea and meals out of mine now and if I lost it would buy another one plus it has basically been the only stove I've used since I bought it so for me it has been a step up in efficiency and convenience.
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: Wildfisher on March 28, 2021, 03:55:22 PM
Thanks Philip. I can't decide whether to go down the Jetboil route or just stick with my mini Trangia which is very light weight but slow. The speed is probably not an issue as I'm only heating a cup of water at a time. I'll dig it out and see if it still works.
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: Bobfly on March 28, 2021, 04:44:36 PM
I know quite a few canoe folk who use Jetboil types as they have cargo room. They reckon them to be quick and reliable. Climbing, hill walking or fishing I have never taken a stove on a day out. Quite often taken a hot flask but usually a litre of cold drink in a plastic Nalgene. Shocking behaviour.  :shock:
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: arawa on March 28, 2021, 05:31:23 PM
Not what you asked  :D but I can't see past my mini Kelly Kettle which is much smaller and lighter than any combination of stove and kettle. I carry a few waxling firelighters in the chimney and one is enough to boil a mug of water pretty quickly.

https://www.ghillie-kettle.co.uk/product-page/mkettle-silver-1

Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: caorach on March 28, 2021, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: admin on March 28, 2021, 03:55:22 PM
Thanks Philip. I can't decide whether to go down the Jetboil route or just stick with my mini Trangia which is very light weight but slow. The speed is probably not an issue as I'm only heating a cup of water at a time. I'll dig it out and see if it still works.

In the end part of it is about how it sits in your plan for the day - as David said the Kelly is a good job if you want to gather up a few sticks etc. and getting the fire going and waiting for the water can be part of slowing you down and making you sit about and think so it can serve a purpose other than just heating the water. Sometimes it isn't about efficiency. At that point only you can decide what works for you.
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: Wildfisher on March 28, 2021, 05:47:03 PM
I did think about a kelly Kettle  :)  I dug out my mini Trangia which has not seen daylight for at least 5 years. It was badly corroded and needed a new o-ring  (I had a spare).  a bit of work with a brillo pad and i soon had it fuelled and tested. Not the fastest, but very small and light. Might just stick with that for now. :D
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: Wildfisher on March 28, 2021, 05:50:07 PM
This is the one I have.

https://www.blacks.co.uk/15893147/trangia-mini-trangia-cookset-15893147/?istCompanyId=d92b362f-ac8a-4a8a-87ca-c56eafad7955&istFeedId=2f99410f-1124-43d5-8232-86c184f09479&istItemId=iqllatpap&istBid=tzlt&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0oCDBhCPARIsAII3C_FbmZUyuqhDtA-5E9kHOc79SeTj_JxKYjuX3GSvnM1HZQBdBKVu8ZcaAjqKEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

I added an ultra light wind shield and it all fits inside the pot. Have to carry a small bottle of meths of course.

Fine for a cup of tea or soup, but not much use for a full blown meal. As Philip suggests it's as much about the ceremony and chilling out as anything else. :D
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: burnie on March 29, 2021, 12:19:13 AM
I'm just taking a hip flask these days..............................................
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: sagecirca on March 31, 2021, 02:11:20 PM
I use a MSR pocketrocket and MSR titanium kettle and cup. Lightest I've found...

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Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: caorach on March 31, 2021, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: sagecirca on March 31, 2021, 02:11:20 PM
I use a MSR pocketrocket and MSR titanium kettle and cup. Lightest I've found...

I did have one of those cannister top type stoves but found that, even with a wind shield, it was sometimes hard to keep it lit in breezy conditions even if I was careful about picking my spot etc. plus in the wind boil times could really increase. However there is no question they are super lightweight and very handy but I've kind of moved away from them. That's a nice spot for some tea :-)
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: Robbie on March 31, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
Some of those jetboil stoves are a fair old price. Fred are you looking for something to cook a meal on or make a cuppa?

Have to admit to being tempted by a kelly kettle, mainly for the relaxed and traditional feel. Never used one but have seen them used and they don't take too long to heat water. Especially if you carry a pre-prepared load of fuel.

The tackle tart in me does like the look of the jetfoil stoves. When i take to the hills i tend to use boil in the bag meal for convenience.

Nostalgia means I carry a Trangia stove, I used one at school and when doing DoE. Reliable robust, but heavy with the fuel bottle.
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: Wildfisher on April 01, 2021, 08:12:22 AM
Not cooking Robbie, just making  a cuppa
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: Terrier on April 02, 2021, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: admin on March 28, 2021, 05:47:03 PM
I did think about a kelly Kettle  :)  I dug out my mini Trangia which has not seen daylight for at least 5 years. It was badly corroded and needed a new o-ring  (I had a spare).  a bit of work with a brillo pad and i soon had it fuelled and tested. Not the fastest, but very small and light. Might just stick with that for now. :D

Love my kelly kettle too, as you can see from my profile pic!
Although if away camping, it's just a wee Aplkit burner I use.
Title: Re: Jetboil
Post by: caorach on April 02, 2021, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: admin on April 01, 2021, 08:12:22 AM
Not cooking Robbie, just making  a cuppa

It is really worth getting some freeze dried food Fred, I know that decent stuff is expensive but being honest if you were to be making yourself a decent meal at home you wouldn't pay much less and you can't beat a chicken curry or the like beside the river or loch. Also you don't really eat out by the river or loch that many times in a year so when you spread the cost out over a whole season then I think it is worth while. If the river is handy for your house then it also means you can go out for lunch, have a few casts, feed yourself, and make good use of your time.

For what it is worth I've tried a lot of the freeze dried foods and while most are passable my experience has been that the more you spend the better and more tasty the food is and I've found the Real Turmat stuff worth the extra cost in many cases but it will work out around £10 per meal. Expensive I know but if you went down the pub for a drink or even decided to have a decent fry in the house then sitting by the loch with birds tweeting, fish rising, interesting moss, weird looking stones etc. makes the extra few quid all worthwhile.

https://basecampfood.com/collections/real-turmat