was looking at sheds on flea bay and found one which i thought would be suitable until i found out that they do not deliver to the north of scotland or any of the islands. I live in central scotland so there would not have been a problem with delivery but i wont be buying as i think these companies are taking liberties with us up here in gods country, why do we put up with this, and they wonder why so many of us are going for the YES VOTE! :x
So will separation make it cheaper? :lol:
Just as well Scotland is part of the UK or all deliveries to or from down south would be international.
Careful you don't cut off your nose to spite your face in anger. I send out a hell of a lot of fly lines and it costs me 3 x as much to send a line to the Irish republic than it does to Northern Ireland or any other UK mainland or non mainland destination.
but does it cost anymore to send items to places like devon and cornwall, isle of wight, isle of man from scotland? so much for all in it together!
Quote from: admin on March 31, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
So will separation make it cheaper? :lol:
Just as well Scotland is part of the UK or all deliveries to or from down south would be international.
Careful you don't cut off your nose to spite your face in anger. I send out a hell of a lot of fly lines and it costs me 3 x as much to send a line to the Irish republic than it does to Northern Ireland or any other UK mainland or non mainland destination.
this is the problem, it all comes under the uk mainland!
When we did up the house the wife bought one of those big fridge freezers, delivering to post code AB30 would cost over £200 if we deliver to DD10 it was something like £20. Guess what if I got it delivered to my neighbour 1/2 mile along the road it would be £20 and they had to pass my door to get there.
AB30 Sir we class that as Highlands and Islands, it's the main post code for Aberdeen.
Down south haven't a clue.
These companies should be charged with improper use of the post code system. It is an operational system for the OCR machines in the Royal Mail distribution centres, it isn't an indicator of where you live it is a way of bundling all the mail for that area so it all gets to the right place. Unless Manchester, M15 comes here, ML5 but that is because the OCR has read it wrong :).
It costs me 3 x as much to send a fly line to the Irish Republic than it does to Northern Ireland. The distance is the same, it crosses water in both cases. The difference is the Republic is an independent foreign country, Northern Ireland is part of the UK. I use the UK Royal Mail, the rate is the same everywhere within the UK. The service is brilliant.
Delivery companies who overcharge within the UK do so because they are private companies who set their own operational parameters, this has got nothing to do with the UK, with Westminster, The Conservative Party, UKIP, hating Scotland or even Alex Salmond. :lol: I never get overcharged by them because I don't use them. Simple. To imply that by making England, Wales and Northern Ireland foreign countries somehow deliveries from them to Scotland would be less expensive I do find a little puzzling.
Quote from: guest on March 31, 2014, 10:56:46 PM
I live on island apparently :(
So did my mother, when she lived in Dunoon :roll:
But you don't have to get a ferry to get home, according to Comet she did.
Me --Do you deliver to Strachur?
Them --Yes
Me --Do you deliver to Glen Branter?
Them -- Yes
Me -- Well tell your driver to keep going for another five miles and he will drive into Dunoon
Them -- No it's an island and he will have to get a ferry.
I gave up after that. I stuck the fridge on the roof of my car and drove it down myself :)
Quote from: hopper on March 31, 2014, 10:44:12 PM
When we did up the house the wife bought one of those big fridge freezers
When we did up our old house I got an AGA delivered from the Midlands up to Alford and, including delivery, saved £500 on what I would have paid in Aberdeen. That was in 1990. What would that £500 be now?
It's good that you can do that isn't it? :D
The organisation I sort-of work for (Citizen's Advice) has been campaigning and lobbying on this issue for a while now, so far to no avail, despite some sympathetic murmurings from certain political corners. (Presumably murmurings rather than roars so they don't actually disturb the corporate beast from its self-satisfied slumber atop its pile of ill-gotten gold, and in doing so jeopardise their future political prospects. Me? Cynical? :roll: )
Well here another one, not royal mail. We bought Karendean planks for the floor and the amount we needed was quite a few boxes, sorry madam that will be £90 delivery, but if you take two deliveries over two days with by the same company it will only be £20. Not rocket science which deal we took.
When questioned why? one delivery is to big.
Double the road miles. :roll:
Royal Mail has created a level of expectation for people all over the UK. It's a terrific service and good value for money. It has economies of scale, efficiency, the profitable deliveries subsidize the loss making deliveries and keeps the cost of those down. This works because it is one company operating across one country - the UK - regulated by one government. Anyone who doubts that should go out today and post two identical large letter packages - one the Irish Republic or any other EU country and one to Northern Ireland then come back and tell us how much each of them cost.
That isn't really a fair comparison Fred. The cost of delivery includes the price that the receiving deliverer adds on to the Royal Mail price. The Royal Mail price is fixed for delivery within the UK outside of this they have to add whatever the price the receiving mail company wants to charge. A lot of courier companies in the UK use the Royal Mail delivery hub to move things around the country before they are picked up at their own local hub for delivery. The Royal Mail have to charge them the same rate as it charges everyone else, sometimes if it is a regular bulk order they will also get a discount, so it pays the courier to send it by Royal Mail then charge whatever they like to the customer to have it delivered by one of their own vans. TNT did that with there holiday mail from Spain. They would pick it up at the hotels, get it into London, put it into the system and then Royal Mail posties had to deliver it :)
Exactly. The Irish Republic is foreign country whose carrier adds on their charge as they must.
Two separate countries, two separate companies.
Right now such a charge does not apply when sending to Scotland or anywhere else within the UK. If Scotland separates it will be a foreign country when looked at from within the UK. Alex Salmond also says he will re-nationalize the Royal Mail in Scotland. So then we have two companies, one state owned in Scotland, one privately owned in the UK. Aye, very good! :roll:
Two separate countries, two separate companies.
The discussion is about courier prices versus Royal mail prices now Fred, not sometime in the future. Both the Dutch and German postal services have a stake in Royal Mail but they still charge for UK mail to be delivered there and royal Mail charge to deliver there mail here, but the difference is peanuts so even after a yes vote the prices wont change significantly. Courier prices may be another matter though, although UPS and TNT seem to be able to match Royal Mail Parcels prices when bringing in stuff from abroad.
Nothing is set in stone Sandy, but right now by act of the UK Parliament Royal Mail must offer a universal service within the UK. We have to deal with the right now and right now we have a wonderful and great value for money service.
http://www.royalmailgroup.com/about-us/regulation/how-were-regulated/universal-service-obligation (http://www.royalmailgroup.com/about-us/regulation/how-were-regulated/universal-service-obligation)
But you know this. Alex Salmond has also said, trumpeted - boasted in fact, that he would re-nationalize the service in Scotland. This will not happen in the UK, so inevitably that would be the the end of Royal Mai as we know it. No one seriously believes that would not mean higher prices and a worse service due to loss of cross subsidy and economies of scale.
As someone who derives a good part of his income - and most of that from England - by operating a mail order service this is more than just a moot point.
When I send a fly line to Germany, (and in the past I sent plants) it costs me 3 x as much as it does to send it within the UK using Royal Mail's superb universal service.
Everything has to be paid for, no matter how it is presented there is no way round this. There is no such thing as a flat rate shipping charge for Forfar and Frankfurt one way or another someone, somewhere pays for it usually through higher overall prices that can be used to hide the extra shipping costs. It is naive to think it is otherwise.
To send a post card to New Zealand costs 81p, from New Zealand to the UK $1.90nzd (99p), so not much difference in it.
http://www.royalmail.com/personal/international-delivery/international-economy (http://www.royalmail.com/personal/international-delivery/international-economy)
http://www.nzpost.co.nz/tools/rate-finder/sending-internationally/letters (http://www.nzpost.co.nz/tools/rate-finder/sending-internationally/letters)
It will cost UK companies more in postage to send bills to Scotland but they will still get special deals from Royal Mail to make it cheaper. Anyone sending bills within Scotland wouldn't see much of a difference. A Scottish mail service will also give companies discounted rates if sending to the rest of the UK so, again, customers will see very little difference. The people who will see a difference will be the casual letter writer and post card sender but Royal Mail have already did surveys that suggest these only make up a small percentage of traffic owing to emails, skyping, facetime, social networking and texting.
Don't know about the ifs buts and mibees Sandy, I can only plan on current realities, not unknowns. Right now I know what it costs me (and therefore what it costs my customers) to send a package within the UK and outwith the UK. Right now my main customer base (by far) is England and along with Scotland that is part of the UK and operates under the Royal Mail universal service. Right now the only certainties of this continuing is if the UK remains intact, everything else is speculation. As I said this is not a just a moot point, I rely on this as part of my income as do other Scottish based suppliers of many products. My lines are also manufactured to my specification - in England and shipped to me from there.
Used to use Royal mail all the time , Never a problem then they done away with standard parcels . Now costs you a lot more to send bigger parcels ie rods etc . Now use myHermes picked up from my door and tracked to its destination far cheaper than royal mail . Only buisness they get from me know is for stamps .
It's horses for courses of course. At one point I used City Link to carry our mail order plants, but sadly their prices went up and their service went down! Of course unlike UK Royal Mail these carriers have no obligation to provide a level cost universal UK service, so if their prices or service bug you then just don't use them.
As a fly line supplier Royal Mail provides me with the ideal 1st class service that enables me to get the product to all UK customers next working day (or Saturday) as long as I get the order by about 2PM. This is done at a very reasonable cost, the customers love it and it saves them money. In 4 years only 2 packages have gone astray and one of those was during the Christmas mayhem. To be honest I cannot imagine a service that would suit me better and I cannot praise it enough. It will be a very black day indeed for myself and other mail order suppliers if that service is compromised in any way.
the point i was trying to make was the discrimination of people who live in the north or any of the islands, nothing to do with royal mail but to do with companies that discriminate against regarding where you live, it almost amounts to a racial thing although not quite. :worms
Don't use them.
Quote from: admin on April 01, 2014, 05:09:47 PM
Don't use them.
Limited options for many of us Fred.
Two options for you all to go take a look at-
1) Proxxon bench top tools. A German company, but Brimarc maintain that they are the UK distributor. They are also available via Axminster (phone for a quote if you are north of Edinburgh or on a remote island). There is a Scottish distributor - Brodies Timber- near Dunkeld (phone for a quote if you are outside Perthshire- I have a PH postcode but I sure ain't in Perthshire!). Hobby's UK also supply (you are on a remote island). Cheapest prices per item across the web (to date) are Chronos (around 10% less) with free delivery to mainland UK. One woodworking forum suggests that it is cheaper overall to buy direct from Germany.
2) A metalworking lathe. These things are way beyond Royal Mail at 120kgs in weight. The sort of machine I am looking at costs around £1,500. A trawl through the net and I am looking at delivery costs of over £200 (as opposed to £50 if I was in Edinburgh). Except Warco, who deliver free to mainland UK.
This is not a Royal Mail issue, nor an independence one. These folks have made a conscious decision about delivery charges based (as Sandy says) on a postcode system that was not designed for this purpose. Nor do their couriers actually pick up in South Scotlandshire and deliver to me. Most deliver to Glasgow, thence via Highland Haulage to Fort William and then it is down to two or three locals - as Fachan says AJG get most of the business because they are the best.
Best of the lot to date was the firm that charged an extra £50 for the Scottish Highlands plus a further £100 for driving from Kyle of Lochalsh to Kyleakin (Skye is a remote island) delivery to the Isle of Wight was free.
They are taking the pish.
When I lived in the back of beyond in Aberdeenshire (a lifestyle choice) my post code was AB33 XXX. AB33 covered an area from just west of Aberdeen up to the summit cairn of Lochnagar and beyond. Some carriers used by some suppliers wanted to charge huge amounts to deliver, some didn't. I used the ones who didn't. They are private companies they don't have a duty to you nor you to them. If you don't like them your only option is don't use them. If that's not an option then that may well be very annoying, but what can be done to improve the situation? My guess is nothing much. I couldn't get mains gas or good broadband where I lived before, I moved and I can now.
Just to chip tuppence worth in support of the excellent German postal service ---- which was privatised some years ago !!
:worms
I sent a fly line to Italy a few weeks ago it took only 3 days! :shock:
The ecstatic customer contacted me and could not praise Royal Mail enough. :8)
I'll do Sandy's job for him! AB33 does not cover the summit cairn of Lochnagar, postcodes are not geographic in that sense.
I do not have a choice in which couriers deliver to me, that is the decision of the supplier. Such items that I produce can be sent by my carrier of choice- Royal Mail- were I to exceed their size/weight limits I would have to use a courier. As the majority of any potential market is south of Edinburgh it would be commercial suicide and misleading to headline my website with "Free next day delivery" (as many do- Screwfix) and then sneak in at the order completion page that I will be charging an extra £XX for deliveries south of Birmingham.
Tesco won't deliver to me, Asda will for £2.50.
AB is the district code for Aberdeen
33 is the area code for where you lived Fred
The main code is the next part which ties the code to the residences in that 100 house delivery area.
'For domestic properties the postcode refers to up to 100 properties in contiguous proximity (e.g. a short section of a populous road, or a series of less populous neighbouring roads). The postcode plus the number or name of a property is not always unique, particularly in rural areas. For example GL20 8NX/1 might refer to either 1 Frampton Cottages or 1 Frampton Farm Cottages, roughly a quarter of a mile apart. The postcode plus the first line of the address, however, is always unique (except where sub-properties occur).'
If couriers only use the first part of the code they don't know where you live, BT is the whole of Northern Ireland and ZE is Shetland, and the number is ,as you say, a geographical area. To get a proper address they need to use the rest of the postcode number as well as the house name/number and street name or it becomes nonsense.
Quote from: Inchlaggan on April 01, 2014, 06:41:14 PM
Asda will for £2.50.
Not bad deal. :8)
Yes it is annoying, but, to be brutal, where we live is a choice we make.
Up at the old homestead I had acres of land, views to die for, was only 10 minutes from The Don, 30 minutes from the Deveron, I could grow and sell plants with ease that other growers in areas with cheap courier services, high speed broadband and mains gas could only dream about. In short we make our choices and there is nothing much you can do about remoteness other than choose to leave it because the financial costs of remaining in it are not going to come down no matter who is in charge.
Quote from: admin on April 01, 2014, 08:07:05 PM
Yes it is annoying, but, to be brutal, where we live is a choice we make.
Sometimes yes, but not in every case. If someone is on a low income, elderly or disabled, or has important local connections or caring responsibilities for another family member then choice doesn't come into it. Oh, and there's also employment :)
Quote from: Midgie Hater on April 02, 2014, 08:06:24 PM
and there's also employment
Agreed, but very often people have to move to where the jobs are. Waiting for a job to come to you is not an option. :D
That's true (as I know all-too-well!), but I meant actually already having a job in a certain area, which then pays the rent or mortgage and living costs etc. as opposed to steadfastly remaining in one place regardless of the jobs market. Mind you, from my work at CAB it's easy to see that those people on very low incomes find relocating to where the job prospects might be better is also prohibitive purely because they are on a low income and can't afford to relocate in the first place. Something of a "chicken and egg" situation, and frustrating and demoralising for said clients who are desperate to become re-established again. But anyway this is an aside - and entirely my fault :lol:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-26856638 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-26856638)
Love the soundbite
"Rob Gibson, the SNP MSP for Caithness, Sutherland and Ross, said fairer parcel delivery charges and not a change in postcode was needed."
Does he mean like Royal Mail, a universal service where the vast UK user base in London, Glasgow, Edinburgh etc pay more in order to subsidize the losses incurred in serving remote areas?
The postal system within Italy has a dreadful reputation. It's not at all unusual for online / mail order retailers to refuse to send goods there.
Alan - you should surely have "taken it up" with the lady. Perhaps offered her something ??
You could have played on their maternal instincts and asked them to rub in something to help. :D :D
Quote from: Alan on April 05, 2014, 12:56:35 AM
i got to know a few locals in the village when i was there, one thing that amused them was the way i bled when i shaved,
So. Let's get this right. "I got to know" means that they were in the bathroom watching you shave of a morning and there were "a few" such Italian spectators over a period of 14 days. Correct?
The debate widens-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-26923387 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-26923387)
It's on the radio right now. A lot of huffing and puffing and not a lot of alternative suggestions. At least we still have the Royal Mail universal service while we are part of the UK, so that's positive.
They should ban private firms, insurance companies and estate agents from using Post Codes to determine how much it will cost for their services and house price. It is a Royal Mail operational code and these things should have nothing to do with your Post Code. Where you live is fine as long as it is based on your physical address and not on an area that could be square miles in size.
Listening to it too.
I'm on an island as well apparently. Robbing barsettes. Recently I ordered an HH highline oilsking jacket online, they e-mailed me back to tell me I lived n an island, they wanted £25 to deliver it by courier. I refused of course and in the end we came up with a compromise 2nd class mail for a fiver, the jacket arrived after just 3 days, about a week sooner than it would with a courier.
Many times I've tracked packages and found that they can sit for a week in inverness, depending on the local distributor used by the national courier. Shit state of affaires, with the privatized royal mail, it ain't going to get any better anytime soon :(
Surely it's up to the buyer to make an informed choice? When I'm buying anything I check all the costs. If you live in a remote area it is unreasonable and unrealistic to expect things to cost the same as they do in Edinburgh, Glasgow or London. The private delivery companies are businesses set up to make a profit they are not a pubic service. UK Royal Mail is my number one choice, great service, level cost no matter where you are within the UK.
Same applies to everything, not just deliveries. Where I lived before energy costs. delivery costs, my own transport costs, locally shopping for food - in short EVERYTHING was more expensive. Living there was a lifestyle choice and the cost of that lifestyle had risen to a level I was no longer prepared to pay, so I moved.
A while ago I searched t'interweb for a couple of heated propagators. Cheapest price was via an Amazon reseller, even with a hefty £20 delivery charge. Delivery would be 5 days and I was given an online tracking code. It turned out the reseller was in Inverness.
The package took this route with these couriers-
Inverness- Carlisle (TNT)
Carlisle- Glasgow (TNT)
Glasgow- Oban (Highland Haulage)
Oban- Inverness (Highland Haulage)
Inverness- Fort William (AJG)
Fort William- Glen Garry (AJG)
A big worry must be the splitting up of Royal Mail with Salmond promising to nationalize it in Scotland. That would be the end of Royal Mail as a universal service within these islands and Scotland then being a foreign country is bound to make deliveries from down south more expensive. Very bad for business and private users. If you think it's bad now ......................................... :?
Post offices are already privately owned. Our village post office closed a few years back. The UK universal flat rate postal service is currently guaranteed within the UK, not to foreign countries outwith the UK as an independent Scotland would be. In the real world you can't have it both ways. Clearly the only current and very real threat to this universal service is splitting the Royal Mail up as Salmond openly boasts he will do.
The future of a universal (Royal Mail) postal system is in doubt whichever way the independence vote goes. A Yes vote may well make things worse but a No vote need not improve the situation that those of us who live on "remote islands" on the UK mainland currently face.
This is not about those suppliers who use Royal Mail. The few that try it on by charging extra for remote areas and then using Royal Mail are quite quickly dealt with.
Nor is this about bulky/weighty items that are beyond the limits of Royal Mail/ Parcelforce. Though we still have items that could be delivered by Royal Mail but are delivered by courier at a cost well exceeding that of Royal Mail.
This is about the abuse of a system (Postcodes) that was never intended to be the basis of courier costs, as Sandy has explained.
Many suppliers, wherever they are based, use what is becoming an industry-standard set of postcodes to determine "remote" areas that will be charged a premium. From the couriers' perspective, there may be some sense when a ferry crossing is involved, or where the population is sufficiently low that the service will not be carrying a sufficient number of items to be economically viable.
This does not suit the suppliers however as it eliminates an increasing number of potential customers.
It is just bollocks that a customer in Dalwhinnie is charged an extra £XX for a delivery from Newcastle when the same item will be delivered to Penzance or Inverness free of charge.
Until today, the debate had been about private customers where the "if you don't like it, move" argument holds some water. It has now expanded to business customers. That is worrying.
Quote from: Inchlaggan on April 08, 2014, 05:49:43 PM
This is about the abuse of a system (Postcodes) that was never intended to be the basis of courier costs, as Sandy has explained.
In a free market and free country that wishes to attract investment you cannot prevent this. These companies are private and will set their pricing to suit their business model. Ban them from using post codes and they will simply translate it into their own system. You cannot un-invent something be it post codes or nuclear weapons. I don't know what the solution is but I do know that Salmond's plans to split up Royal Mail and nationalize the Scottish part in order to appease left wing voters will end the universal flat rate system across these isles. This idea is nuts.
Quote from: admin on April 08, 2014, 06:07:54 PM
Ban them from using post codes and they will simply translate it into their own system.
Yes please and they will be subject to market forces. That is the point. Postcodes do not translate into courier costs. It does not cost the courier an extra £50 for a courier to deliver to Kyleakin rather than Kyle of Lochalsh.
I do not live on a remote island and my postcode does not/cannot determine that I do.
They are already subject to market forces. :D No matter what you "call" the system they use they will continue to operate as they see best suits their business. Unless of course they are regulated by legislation in which case many will simply pull out and not deliver at all to those areas or perhaps through cross subsidy where deliveries between say Glasgow and Edinburgh cost more to cover for loss making deliveries to Achiltibuie. But of course right now we have that - UK Royal Mail! :lol:
Scot Mail has more of a ring to it :D
In every news article, radio numpty phone in, whatever all you hear is predictable nationalistic politics, general complaining and talk about "how unfair" it is that more expensive deliveries to remote areas by private companies actually do cost more. So far I have not heard a single suggestion of how this doubtless annoying issue might be improved or resolved.
Any suggestions? Come on now's your chance. Someone be a hero and revolutionize deliveries to remote areas. Anyone? :lol:
Quote from: Alan on April 09, 2014, 09:52:43 PM
Starting with logistics (which is where the cost lies) there is little difference in cost sending a container to Inverness or Cornwall
That depends on your starting point. London to Cornwall 250 miles 4 hours. London to Inverness 560 miles 9 hours.
Quote from: Alan on April 09, 2014, 09:52:43 PM
If you were forced to deliver to every corner of the highlands you would do this.
Forced? Exactly would you force private companies to deliver to every corner of the highlands?
News Flash: Wildfisher Haulage has just closed its Scottish operation and will now be focusing on the profitable large market place and customer base down south. :lol:
I used London because most of the issues and moans I hear seem to center around goods ordered from south of the border and shipped north. If it's costly now how much might it cost if Inverness was a foreign destination?
Quote from: Alan on April 08, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
Paisley is an issue, it shares its PA post code with some of the islands, its one of those nonsenses that is hard to unravel, market forces as such that the sender would just rather not have the custom from areas that are expensive to get to, and on the other hand they have no idea the business they are missing out on because they can't quantify where they don't do business,
This is what governments are for.
Falkirk is an issue for many couriers too apparently, and they can't use the excuse that it shares it's postcode with some of the islands! So yes, agreed Alan.
However...Fred: Free markets, market forces, business-friendly policies, with an emphasis on minimal regulation...are you quite
certain you're a Socialist? As Roy Bland says to George Smiley in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy: "As a good Socialist i'm going where the money is, and as a Capitalist i'm sticking with the revolution".
Quote from: Alan on April 09, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
if it got that expensive i'd buy a van.
Now we are getting somewhere. Folk in remote areas should stop moaning and buy a van. :lol:
Quote from: Alan on April 09, 2014, 11:48:16 PM
The point is, if they pay the same taxes as someone in the central belt, should they not get the same services as someone in the central belt?
Because the taxes they pay have nothing whatsoever to do with private carriers or the services they provide. Other than setting up some kind of cooperative local service of their own I'm not sure what if anything can be done. That might not be possible for the very same reasons; too few customers, too thinly spread. You've done the delivery thing, you know fine what I mean. As I said it makes you realise what a terrific service UK Royal Mail provides within these islands.
Quote from: Alan on April 10, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
i remain convinced it could be done profitably at a fraction of the cost they pay now, all it needs is a central depot for goods coming from the south, and a local company to distribute, depots give you the choice of picking up if you don't want to pay for delivery, and a local service can be as little as 12 hours, that could put highland delivery into the fastest in the UK.
Then go for it. If it works as well as you expect you might even end up wealthy enough to buy your own grouse moor. :makefun
A new beauty.
On this occasion the UK Mainland in the stated "free delivery to the UK mainland" excludes Devon, Cornwall, Cumbria and Scotland except Glasgow, Edinburgh and Fife.
Delivery to my PH postcode will add £70 to a £200 order.
The company is based in Cupar!
Quote from: Inchlaggan on February 16, 2015, 01:47:51 PM
A new beauty.
On this occasion the UK Mainland in the stated "free delivery to the UK mainland" excludes Devon, Cornwall, Cumbria and Scotland except Glasgow, Edinburgh and Fife.
Delivery to my PH postcode will add £70 to a £200 order.
The company is based in Cupar!
name them and shame them :shock:
Quote from: loch coulter on February 16, 2015, 06:44:10 PM
name them and shame them :shock:
It wont be them it will be the courier they use.
Quote from: Fishtales on February 16, 2015, 07:48:15 PM
It wont be them it will be the courier they use.
basically any where off the main motorways by the look of it.