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Title: Last minute present?
Post by: Fishtales on December 17, 2015, 05:57:18 PM
Or perhaps something you are looking for?

http://www.sportsdirect.com/flash-sale-three#dcp=1&dppp=100&OrderBy=rank&utm_source=sd-151217&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=151217-uk-flash (http://www.sportsdirect.com/flash-sale-three#dcp=1&dppp=100&OrderBy=rank&utm_source=sd-151217&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=151217-uk-flash)
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Wildfisher on December 17, 2015, 06:02:34 PM
Some decent prices there Sandy.  :8)
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Fishtales on December 17, 2015, 06:06:01 PM
Even if they fall apart within a few months the prices are right :)
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: rannoch raider on December 17, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Karrimor Goose Down jacket was £140 reduced to £28. Bloody hell !  :shock:
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: burnie on December 17, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
Wouldn't have anything off that scumbag if it was free, not paying his workers the minimum wage, zero hours contracts, damn near slavery, won't hire English speakers, so they can't complain or report him, bastard man. (Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas(rant over))
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Fishtales on December 17, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
burnie

Malaysia, China, India and a few other countries come to mind for cheap labour and we buy their stuff too. The foreign workers you are talking about are happy to work at below the minimum wage just for the job as it is still way more than they would get at home. I have met and talked to professionals, Doctors and Dentists to name two, who were willing to work 16 hours a day seven days a week for any wage they could get and sending most of the money home. They would do it for a few years and then head back to their own country. Why? Because they had made enough here to buy a house and set themselves up in private practices.

I'm not condoning his working practices, which haven't been proven yet, but they aren't the downtrodden foreign workers that they are made out to be even if he is taking advantage of their willingness to work for near nothing.

Anyway, I read that most of his stuff is cheap knockoffs from abroad and not the real thing so the prices are still probably way over their full value :)
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Clan Chief on December 17, 2015, 10:27:43 PM
I'm with you Burnie. Wouldn't give that scumbag a penny!
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: shad on December 17, 2015, 10:40:58 PM

Yes Im the same, guy is a tosser.
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Wildfisher on December 17, 2015, 11:02:36 PM
He's giving Rangers shit, so he can't be all bad.   :lol:
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: rannoch raider on December 17, 2015, 11:05:52 PM
Ooft !!!! He must be a real tosser if you can knock back a goose down jacket for under £30. I am impressed by your sacrifice to uphold your principles chaps. Me, I'm just a cheapskate who likes to be cosy  :wink:
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Highlander on December 17, 2015, 11:20:23 PM
He might well be a scumbag but there are plenty more of that ilk out there. If we did not use them then we might well be wearing sackcloth. Does not make it right but is sadly the way of the world at the moment.

Tight Lines
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Wildfisher on December 18, 2015, 07:47:52 AM
Amazon use tax avoidance schemes - better not buy anything from them then. But wait!  Phil Boswell MP for Coatbridge was caught doing  the same thing recently and has been defended by his colleagues, so buying from Amazon must be OK.  Then there's the Chinese occupying Tibet and currently stealing islands from their neighbours including the Philippines  while the Chinese  navy protects Chinese fishermen who are systematically destroying the coral reefs around them. Ah well, then, no more Chinese goods either!
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: burnie on December 18, 2015, 11:10:18 AM
I know it's impossible to not support some of the exploitation, but where it's identified I will, thanks to that nice Mrs Thatcher it's damn near impossible to buy British as we don't make much anymore.
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Wildfisher on December 18, 2015, 01:26:55 PM
After watching "Bridge Over the River Kwai"  I almost didn't spend  £1000s on Nikon camera equipment, in fact I was all set to buy Leica gear and a VW Golf until I remembered the German death camps in the 1940s. Thinking back to the Vietnam war I was at the point of breaking my Sage rods and buying Hardy until I remembered they were crap and probably made in China anyway.  Gosh this ethical buying is complicated!  :lol:

I'm with Sandy on this, better these people have jobs and if Mike Ashley at Sports Direct is breaking any laws then the  law will deal with him.
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Clan Chief on December 18, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
To be honest I m not buying from SD because of any moral stance on his exploitation of cheap labour etc etc etc!   :(
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: corsican dave on December 18, 2015, 01:52:16 PM
about as ethical as you can get is to go to a real shop (even SD or the other "stack it high sell it cheap" emporia if you really have to... :roll:) and buy over the counter from a real person who will hopefully be over the moon to deal with you. that will make their day and justify their employment. all the rest you have no influence over. buy on-line & you're part of the problem....
oh, and remember to thank them and wish them a merry xmas too, assuming they were half-way competent at their job & pleasant to deal with
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Inchlaggan on December 18, 2015, 02:23:41 PM
It should be pointed out that tax avoidance is not illegal (tax evasion is). It would be imprudent for a company to pay any tax that it did not need to- the shareholders would not be happy. Even more so for charities where there is a legal obligation placed on the trustees to ensure that monies are used as efficiently as possible. Our political leaders have invented two new concepts - "aggressive tax avoidance" bollocks, close the loopholes- and "moral obligation to pay your share of tax"-probably in respect of much of government expenditure but most of us can easily make a list of ways in which our taxes are spent that we are morally or ethically opposed to.

As to buying ethically- commission a craftsman/artisan to make what you need. Materials, overheads, time (at the minimum wage), a modest profit and VAT- prepared to pay that?
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Wildfisher on December 18, 2015, 02:36:07 PM
Quote from: Inchlaggan on December 18, 2015, 02:23:41 PM
It should be pointed out that tax avoidance is not illegal (tax evasion is). It would be imprudent for a company to pay any tax that it did not need to

We all do it when we get the tax free allowance on our earnings or put our savings in an ISA. Yes we get it automatically, but there is nothing to prevent those of us who disagree with legal tax avoidance giving the tax we save to charity.   :D
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: loch coulter on December 18, 2015, 06:23:28 PM
Quote from: admin on December 17, 2015, 11:02:36 PM
He's giving Rangers shit, so he can't be all bad.   :lol:
so, thats us back to the fishing forum then! :x
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Wildfisher on December 18, 2015, 06:39:49 PM
It's a joke Tommy lighten up. If you want more fishing topics then go ahead and post some instead of just moaning about it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: shad on December 18, 2015, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: Highlander on December 17, 2015, 11:20:23 PM
He might well be a scumbag but there are plenty more of that ilk out there. If we did not use them then we might well be wearing sackcloth. Does not make it right but is sadly the way of the world at the moment.

Tight Lines

Dont agree with that, I buy most of my stuff from costco who treat their staff very fairly , they have full time jobs and good conditions.The warehouse I use must have been open 15 years and probably half the staff have been there from the start.

So it is possible to sell stuff cheaply ,make a profit and treat people well, yes the stuff comes from the far east but I dont think that was anybodies issue with Mr Ashley.
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: SoldierPmr on December 18, 2015, 07:01:01 PM
I got to admit years ago I bought a Fila puffer jacket for when I was in Norway and idle (waxing skis) I paid £10 for it and it did a great job at keeping me warm I still use it today if  they mepps get any lower the 20 this winter  :lol:

Forgot to add most nights were between -20 and -35
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Suki1312 on December 18, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
Yep i'm with a few of the boys here . My sister in law was one of the workers at Dundonald that got 15 mins notice to get off site . Stories she told me about there working practices were priceless . And on another note him and his ilk ( Who will be in the biggest court case in Scotland next year ) run my club into near oblivion .  I hope they are all exposed for the thieves that they are . I don't think there are many people out there like him he's a parasite . Rant over Merry Xmas 
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: Bobfly on December 18, 2015, 08:29:28 PM
Mrs Bobfly, with yours truly in tow, was in half a dozen family shops and wee places in Crieff today. Good fun and banter and smiles all round and I even managed to get a very modest bit of discount from the old dear in the ironmongers. Result !!!
Title: Re: Last minute present?
Post by: corsican dave on December 18, 2015, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Bobfly on December 18, 2015, 08:29:28 PM
Mrs Bobfly, with yours truly in tow, was in half a dozen family shops and wee places in Crieff today. Good fun and banter and smiles all round and I even managed to get a very modest bit of discount from the old dear in the ironmongers. Result !!!
:applause   :cheers;