It's 2 years since I started selling Wildfisher Fly Lines.
The best seller, by a fair old margin is the #5 River Don Heron Grey ............. profile ? ............................... double taper. :lol:
Seems that many fly fishers, as well as looking for good value are also quite a traditional bunch at heart. Mind you, I suppose for intelligent and stealthy wild fishing, the stability, versatility and ease of a good old DT is pretty damned hard to beat. :8)
Quote from: admin on August 14, 2012, 12:43:22 PM
It's 2 years since I started selling Wildfisher Fly Lines.
The best seller, by a fair old margin is the #5 River Don Heron Grey ............. profile ? ............................... double taper. :lol:
Seems that many fly fishers, as well as looking for good value are also quite a traditional bunch at heart. Mind you, I suppose for intelligent and stealthy wild fishing, the stability, versatility and ease of a good old DT is pretty damned hard to beat. :8)
I've never thought of myself in those terms ;) But I do like a double taper, maybe it's a lack of line control on my part but I prefer heavier lines in a wind and found myself searching high and low for a double taper in a heavier weight of line. I recently bought a couple of DT salmon lines from John Norris for £8 a pop :D, you can't fit much backing on a normal trout reel with one of these, but as I'm only catching half pounders at the moment the lack of backing shouldn't be an issue.
I also bought a midge tip WF line (5' of intermediate at the start if the taper) thats proving very useful in the burns, £12.99.
Quote from: Buanán on August 14, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
you can't fit much backing on a normal trout reel with one of these,
Cut the line in half and just use one half on the reel.
TL
MC
Quote from: Mike Connor on August 14, 2012, 02:11:17 PM
Cut the line in half and just use one half on the reel.
TL
MC
Thats what I did with the last 120' DT, took around 30' foot off. The trouble is that I'm left with a rather blunt attachment to the backing, it would take a monster dod of glue to smooth it off and even then there would be a problem getting the line through the end ring en route to the reel. Don't fancy that much so these lines I'll just leave as they are and make do with less backing. Keeping them whole also gives me the option of loading them onto my bigger reel should I end up on the end of my double hander.
Quote from: Buanán on August 14, 2012, 05:22:34 PM
Thats what I did with the last 120' DT, took around 30' foot off. The trouble is that I'm left with a rather blunt attachment to the backing, it would take a monster dod of glue to smooth it off and even then there would be a problem getting the line through the end ring en route to the reel. Don't fancy that much so these lines I'll just leave as they are and make do with less backing. Keeping them whole also gives me the option of loading them onto my bigger reel should I end up on the end of my double hander.
Doesn't usually matter. Use a loop connection
http://www.graysofkilsyth.com/fishing-knots-gray%27s-loop.htm (http://www.graysofkilsyth.com/fishing-knots-gray%27s-loop.htm)
and there is no problem going through the rings. If you use half a line which is 60 feet, then you are not going to be casting it like a head on a single hander anyway. The sixty foot head will work on the double hander as well. Also, you get two 60 ft lines.
TL
MC
Quote from: Alan on August 14, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
many would say the image of double tapers is traditional, maybe even old fashioned, but function knows no such restrictions, they have the same benefits today that they always had,
Especially for small river trout fishing DT is hard to beat.
I have taken a
lot of business from some other small suppliers who appear to have lost focus on actual fishing with ever more exotic products and ever increasing prices to match. It was obvious right from the start I would, that's why I started! :lol: It's not getting into the novelty and / or "magic bullet" market I suppose. There are no wallet-driven quick fixes in fly fishing and my market is very much the ordinary fly fisher with his feet on the ground and head way below the clouds taking in the view of the water he is about to fish. "Experts" and casting nerds will never be happy no matter what you give them, so why bother trying?
As Malcolm said there is a market for novelty / specialty lines, but it will always be small compared to that of the good old main stream where people actually get out there and fish. It's a crazy old world of short lived fads, brand new "must haves" and here to day superseded tomorrow products.
The good old DT just goes on and on and on and my sales stats really show that. I have sold 100's of the damn things! :8)
Quote from: Mike Connor on August 14, 2012, 05:30:09 PM
Doesn't usually matter. Use a loop connection
http://www.graysofkilsyth.com/fishing-knots-gray%27s-loop.htm (http://www.graysofkilsyth.com/fishing-knots-gray%27s-loop.htm)
and there is no problem going through the rings. If you use half a line which is 60 feet, then you are not going to be casting it like a head on a single hander anyway. The sixty foot head will work on the double hander as well. Also, you get two 60 ft lines.
TL
MC
Thanks for that, I may try that with my partially cut DT, cut it down 30' more and try that loop arrangement and see how I get on. Your right of course, I don't use this line in a standard single hander fashion, rather in wild windy weather where the best I can manage is a switch or roll (I don't know which) and that works a treat, especially when a back cast just gets blown forwards or as sometimes happens, blown flat, in a hurricane :lol:
Wildfisher DT - £12 each special WFF member price (what other forum values its members as much :8) )
Cut it in 1/2, add a braided loop to the cut end, attach backing.
You now have 2 fly lines suitable for 99% of all the fishing you will ever do.
£6 each.
Hard to beat eh?
:lol:
Quote from: Malcolm on August 14, 2012, 07:25:16 PM
However this is quite separate to this thread which is all about what people find popular and why and clearly for normal trout fishing a lot of people like DTs for these purposes. By the way I already own 2 (or is it 3) Wildfisher WF lines and they are as good as I need for ordinary fishing. I'm not a DT fan.
That's right, Spey lines etc should really go in another thread. By the way, WF#5 River Don Heron Grey is the second most popular line. I have sold 100s of those too. Like Malcolm I use WF most of the time.
WF for me, but then I have never tried anything else......
Quote from: Alan on August 15, 2012, 12:23:12 AM
the cast you make to cast 35' has enough energy to go 70'..if you let it, its what a WF line is designed to do, put another way if you aerialse 35' of a WF it will shoot to 70, rather than being a physical impossibility, its actually just what its meant to do.
and shooting casting line never could obviously, but any line will shoot given enough weight pulling it, even a dt.
A WF line is merely a shooting head with integrated running line. You need a lot more power to shoot a head 70 feet than to aerialise 35 feet of it. Or to cast 35 feet with it.
Most lines will shoot to some extent. Light backing line shoots the best because it weighs the least and causes less drag.
You are confusing something or other, but I don't know what. This is also wandering way off topic.
TL
MC
Please note I have created a new topic called spey casting dynamics and moved posts I believed to be more relevant to that topic there.
Some useful information with regard to fly lines;
http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/choose-line-home.html (http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/choose-line-home.html)
Take note of the micro-balloons in the coating! :)
TL
MC
Quote from: Mike Connor on August 15, 2012, 10:19:10 PM
Take note of the micro-balloons in the coating! :)
Quite clearly, balloons are where it's all happening.
Are you ready for the Wildfisher Zeppelin? Guaranteed to be a fiery performer. :lol:
Quote from: admin on August 15, 2012, 11:32:20 PM
Quite clearly, balloons are where it's all happening.
Are you ready for the Wildfisher Zeppelin? Guaranteed to be a fiery performer. :lol:
Maybe a hot air version? Should be easy enough to fill up! :)
TL
MC
Quote from: Mike Connor on August 15, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
Should be easy enough to fill up! :)
Indeed. there is no shortage of that in fly fishing! :lol: