Following on from Donald's Big Fly Box, I have been giving some thought to making "bespoke" pocket-size (3" x 5") boxes from a mix of woods.
So now I am looking for design input. Most boxes open book fashion, with the flies aligned vertically. But there are many other options- chest, drawer chest, sliding lid and so on.
Any thoughts on what you would like to own?
Can you make one like "The Tardis"? ie 2x3" but able to carry 1000+ flies with seperate drawers for wets, dries, lures and a secret hidden drawer that will only open after recognising my fingerprint? That one will be most important as it will contain my secret stash of multicoloured powerbait for the days when the troot just don't want to play with my lovely flees :worried
yours hopefully
daz
I'd go for something like a large painting frame but instead of a painting just have flat foam. You see nice display thingies with a small bunch of flies but I'd go much bigger and have it as a storage/display device. When you don't need the flies just stick 'em on there, when you need them stick 'em in your box. Would probably look quite cool on the wall too :lol:
Quote from: daz on May 15, 2012, 04:31:03 PM
Can you make one like "The Tardis"? ie 2x3" but able to carry 1000+ flies with seperate drawers for wets, dries, lures and a secret hidden drawer that will only open after recognising my fingerprint? That one will be most important as it will contain my secret stash of multicoloured powerbait for the days when the troot just don't want to play with my lovely flees :worried
yours hopefully
daz
Have been designing one similar to that for a while, just waiting for a bit more input on the time factors from Stephen Hawking.
TL
MC
Kicking around some design ideas.
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One like the bottom one in Black with a silver fish skeleton a la Fishbone / G loomis. Knock up one of those and I'll take it. Generous donation to yourself or the forum.
They look nice.
For fish skeletons;
http://www.ebay.de/itm/G-Loomis-Skeleton-Fish-Boat-Decal-Set-White-16-x-9-/110872745652?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d087d6b4 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/G-Loomis-Skeleton-Fish-Boat-Decal-Set-White-16-x-9-/110872745652?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d087d6b4)
http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?LH_AvailTo=77&_nkw=loomis+skeleton+fish&_arm=1&_armm=63&_ruu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_nkw%3Dloomis%2Bskeleton%2Bfish%26_arr%3D1&_rdc=1 (http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?LH_AvailTo=77&_nkw=loomis+skeleton+fish&_arm=1&_armm=63&_ruu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_nkw%3Dloomis%2Bskeleton%2Bfish%26_arr%3D1&_rdc=1)
https://www.google.com/search?q=fish+skeleton&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=e5CzT9vgAdGdsAaa3bED&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1365&bih=786 (https://www.google.com/search?q=fish+skeleton&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=e5CzT9vgAdGdsAaa3bED&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1365&bih=786)
TL
MC
Thanks Mike- way ahead of you though!
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Quote from: Inchlaggan on May 16, 2012, 02:05:27 PM
Thanks Mike- way ahead of you though!
Somebody always is! :)
TL
MC
Spot on! Now just 3d print it and I'll PM you my address :lol: (On a serious note Ken, if you make it I'll buy it).
OK folks, we have a sucker live one on the hook. He's placed an order without asking the price, how are we going to land this one?
I said Generous NOT fecking Stupid :lol:
Quote from: Inchlaggan on May 16, 2012, 04:43:54 PM
OK folks, we have a sucker live one on the hook. He's placed an order without asking the price, how are we going to land this one?
Ask Haresear to show you how to keep him on a short line with a big hairy knot?
TL
MC
OK, let's reel him in.
Personalisation is the start, so I'll add his name.
Some go-faster stripes as well.
Wondering about the catch, I could make it with a magnetic closure.
Interior can be glorified as well, I'm thinking ridged amadou in the bottom plus a mirrored magnetic sheet in the top for holding the Peter Ross's as he sorts them.
Some ideas about an included, flip-down magnifying sheet in the lid, pierce some holes in the foam and make a pocket in the base for a wee bag of silica gel to keep the moisture low, some sub-minature LED's around the sides of the bottom (powered by a watch battery) that light up when you open the box.
Any other ideas welcome.
(And I am not talking my usual pish here, all of the above can be done.)
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I wouldnt mind a wee trout priest am going to give the ythan a proper bash this year so might need it. Or if you are up for it a spool caddy similar to this one:
http://www.fishingmegastore.com/uni-tray-spool-caddy~1491.html (http://www.fishingmegastore.com/uni-tray-spool-caddy~1491.html)
Quote from: Rowan on May 16, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
I wouldnt mind a wee trout priest am going to give the ythan a proper bash this year so might need it. Or if you are up for it a spool caddy similar to this one:
The priest is a doddle, just give me some notion of size and I'll do you a design.
The spool caddy also a good idea, determined by the number of spools you want it to contain. Again, give me some ideas and I'll try it out. If there is any serious interest in this stuff (and Donald's Big Fly Box) I am more than happy to turn out a limited number for forum funds (less material costs, but that's it).
That's a good idea actually, I have a lathe and a half decent milling machine and can knock some stuff out. I have made a few priests on the lathe from various materials, gallows tools for the vice, holders for holding fly line spools so you can wind them on without fuss, bobbin holder extension things (for holding small bobbins)
Hope you don't mind me stealing your thunder mate
daz
Quote from: Inchlaggan on May 16, 2012, 07:16:35 PM
The priest is a doddle, just give me some notion of size and I'll do you a design.
The spool caddy also a good idea, determined by the number of spools you want it to contain. Again, give me some ideas and I'll try it out.
priest need only be 9 inches or so long not sure if it would even need weighted, just needs a nice grip and a drilled hole for lanyard
the uni-tray spool caddy is a good design because the foam holds the loose tinsel/thread in place and you can see the label on the top of the spool, I just think for 20 quid it is a bit steep for a plastic box with foam in it. If you could come up with something similar but nicer looking I'd be delighted.
Quote from: Inchlaggan on May 16, 2012, 06:36:58 PM
OK, let's reel him in.
Personalisation is the start, so I'll add his name. Nice touch, appeals to my over inflated ego
Some go-faster stripes as well. Nah bollocks to that, I am well fast enough
Wondering about the catch, I could make it with a magnetic closure. Sounds good in theory but it would have to be decent as I had a Wheatley box which was supposed to be magnetic but was crap
Interior can be glorified as well, I'm thinking ridged amadou in the bottom plus a mirrored magnetic sheet in the top for holding the Peter Ross's as he sorts them. The only PR's I use are BIG DOUBLES so as long as they fit...
Some ideas about an included, flip-down magnifying sheet in the lid, pierce some holes in the foam and make a pocket in the base for a wee bag of silica gel to keep the moisture low, some sub-minature LED's around the sides of the bottom (powered by a watch battery) that light up when you open the box. Am loving the idea but not sure how practical or usefull this will be, you'd need to change the battery and anyway I can see my blobs and boobies in almost total darkness they are that bright
Any other ideas welcome.
(And I am not talking my usual pish here, all of the above can be done.)
I like the loomis logo but it is loomis... If you have a look at this page
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The large black ones are decent and prob dont brreach any copyright
Also like this one but it would need to be illuminous for max effect
http://nola.livemusicblog.com/2012/02/15/fishbone-set-for-louisiana-run-during-mardi-gras-2012/ (http://nola.livemusicblog.com/2012/02/15/fishbone-set-for-louisiana-run-during-mardi-gras-2012/)
Just a wee thought on fly boxes.
Having lost a few over the years, I now attach them to my waistcoat via a lanyard and also write my name, address and phone number on the inside.
Alex
Nice stuff Ken, my project has come to a bit of a standstill for the moment but will be back on track shortly. What material would you use for a black fly box ?
Quote from: Sandfly on May 17, 2012, 05:20:40 PM
Ebony I would imagine
Could do, but it would not float well! It is also endangered and expensive. There are plenty of others that could be stained and polished to give a great effect. The fashion for black oak furniture 20 years ago led to a the production of a high-quality stain from Ronseal that allows just about any well-finished wood to achieve the ebony effect. I still have a reasonable supply. Acrylic would do it nicely too.
Otter Spotter's Loomis logo would infringe copyright, as would the images he posted links to. Photo-etching brass can provide stunning detail, and whilst Otter Spotter is the
sucker customer, and therefore always right, I thought the cartoon skeletons a bit naff for an heirloom that is going to cost him a bundle. Something more appropriate and refined I thought.
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You got me thinking about this earlier, so I took a wee trip to our joiners shop and managed to scrounge some oak cut offs from them :D
We also have a seperate factory where we make mahogany doors and windows, I also get all the offcuts from them, Usually a couple of bin-bags every week, but that gets burned in the stove :crap
Just can't resist nice big lumps of kilne dried, free wood.
I can save you some of the larger pieces if you like? The grain isn't too great as it is from sustainable sources and forced but I have made a few knife scales, chopping boards etc from it. Occasionally I manage to get a nice bit of Teak as well but they are few and far between. The last one I got I saw being thrown in the skip, our kitchen fitters managed to cut the hole for the sink in the wrong place and I caught them trying to get rid of the evidence at 5am, I told them to deliver it to my house and I would forget all about it. A lovely 3mtr x 600mm sheet of teak, 50mm thick, I made and sold a few chopping boards from that one :D
daz
Jeez Daz, I'm up for that one! As a model maker, a bin bag of offcuts like that would keep me going for a year!
18" x 3" x 1/4" Mahogany is sold to model makers for £2.56, and they are going to rip it up into much smaller pieces.
Two bin bags and I could justify the Proxxon thicknesser!
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Occasionally I manage to get a nice bit of Teak as well but they are few and far between. The last one I got I saw being thrown in the skip, our kitchen fitters managed to cut the hole for the sink in the wrong place and I caught them trying to get rid of the evidence at 5am, I told them to deliver it to my house and I would forget all about it. A lovely 3mtr x 600mm sheet of teak, 50mm thick, I made and sold a few chopping boards from that one :D
daz
I got asked to do 2 worktops in an acquaintances house, think they were walnut and cost £1400 for the pair. I wouldn't touch them, not because I'm unsure of my abilities but because I couldn't see them paying the £1400 I would've charged for fitting them. Buy expensive materials and expect to pay premium labour prices or take your chances with a couple of monkey's who are likely to cut the sink hole in the wrong place :lol:
I'd be up for any off cuts as well because most of the places that machine premium hardwooods these days use every last inch.
FAO Rowan
A priest design.
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Nice priest, how much lead can you get inside it?
Quote from: stonepark on May 18, 2012, 03:29:31 PM
Nice priest, how much lead can you get inside it?
Anything up to 8 ounces, for balance around 4 would probably be best.
If you wanna talk priests, you should check this guy out for ideas
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http://s245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/thepriestmaker/?albumview=slideshow (http://s245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/thepriestmaker/?albumview=slideshow)
looks great Ken knock me a couple out small enough to fit in my waistcoat but not too small that they cant chap a big troot
Quote from: Rowan on May 18, 2012, 07:21:19 PM
looks great Ken knock me a couple out small enough to fit in my waistcoat but not too small that they cant chap a big troot
9" long, just under 1" dia, how big are your pockets?
Quote from: Inchlaggan on May 18, 2012, 09:11:18 PM
9" long, just under 1" dia, how big are your pockets?
sounds about right how much do you want for one?
Just as an aside, I was in GAC today and they are knocking out copies of the large C&F fly boxes for £9.99 called sfx fly boxes under their own stillwater brand http://www.fishingmegastore.com/view.php?module=productsnew&search=fly+boxes&searchbutton.x=13&searchbutton.y=10&parentonly=169 (http://www.fishingmegastore.com/view.php?module=productsnew&search=fly+boxes&searchbutton.x=13&searchbutton.y=10&parentonly=169)
Quote from: guest on May 19, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
Just as an aside, I was in GAC today and they are knocking out copies of the large C&F fly boxes for £9.99 called sfx fly boxes under their own stillwater brand http://www.fishingmegastore.com/view.php?module=productsnew&search=fly+boxes&searchbutton.x=13&searchbutton.y=10&parentonly=169 (http://www.fishingmegastore.com/view.php?module=productsnew&search=fly+boxes&searchbutton.x=13&searchbutton.y=10&parentonly=169)
Just had a look and there are some cracking deals!
daz
Rowan- pick a wood- it does not alter the price- which will just be a donation to the forum anyway.
Do you want it weighted?
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wow what a choice!
think I will plump for the cherry
if you think it is ok without lead then I'll go unweighted
Quote from: Rowan on May 20, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
wow what a choice!
think I will plump for the cherry
if you think it is ok without lead then I'll go unweighted
Isn't it amazing how many people plump for the cherry ?
TL
MC
i must be strange lol...
As i like the Ash , Beech , elm and the Oak lol
Quote from: Inchlaggan on May 17, 2012, 05:34:02 PM
Could do, but it would not float well! It is also endangered and expensive. There are plenty of others that could be stained and polished to give a great effect. The fashion for black oak furniture 20 years ago led to a the production of a high-quality stain from Ronseal that allows just about any well-finished wood to achieve the ebony effect. I still have a reasonable supply. Acrylic would do it nicely too.
Otter Spotter's Loomis logo would infringe copyright, as would the images he posted links to. Photo-etching brass can provide stunning detail, and whilst Otter Spotter is the sucker customer, and therefore always right, I thought the cartoon skeletons a bit naff for an heirloom that is going to cost him a bundle. Something more appropriate and refined I thought.
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Not sure that Otter looks too healthy!
For me really has to be black and silver the otter is a nice idea but in silver some generic otter images here http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=clip+art+otter&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=wGO&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=np&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=a--5T834Ksja8AP984GVCg&ved=0CIQBELAE&biw=1280&bih=894 (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=clip+art+otter&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=wGO&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=np&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=a--5T834Ksja8AP984GVCg&ved=0CIQBELAE&biw=1280&bih=894) - prefer a more traditional otter pose i.e. on its back wth some grub...
Definitely stained black rather than ebony or such like
Might be worth just spending a few minutes on Gimp or Inkscape with one of your own photos
Rattled this together from one of my own photos with a few clicks
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Nice idea Malcolm. Keep them coming chaps!
Found this on t'interweb.
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RS used to do photosensitised anodised aluminium kits that would be ideal for the kind of high-level detail in Malcolm's suggestion. Even scratching through syandard anodised ali might work.
There are a few excellent suggestions and offers of assistance coming through by PM, for which my grateful thanks.
If it all works out we (and I do mean "we"- some objects could pass through the workshops of several members of the forum before completion) could end up with some very fine fishing accessories indeed.
So keep the ideas and comments coming.
You can etch it easily enough using photo sensitive coating. Spray your metal with the special coating of photoresist. Print your pattern to a clear sheet, light it up with a UV lamp. Get the lit areas removed in an alkaline solution. Drop it in the acid bath.( Or use ferric chloride). Works great ( I use it for producing circuit boards). You can produce very very fine patterns indeed.
You can also draw with a marker ( If you can draw! I can't! At least not "art" but I can manage a circuit board no bother ).
http://modeltech.tripod.com/etchingarticle.htm (http://modeltech.tripod.com/etchingarticle.htm)
http://themodelmakersresource.co.uk/articles/article001.html (http://themodelmakersresource.co.uk/articles/article001.html)
Photo-etching printed circuit board (homebrew PCB) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfelrrZyCYQ#ws)
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Aluminium is not very soluble acid solutions. Hence the use of the ferric chloride, in the link given by Mike. If aluminium was readily acid soluble, there would be lots of supermarket shelves swimming with coke.
Jim