This is disgraceful :x
Patersons of Greenoakhill the gravel extraction/landfill people's proposals have been rejected four times and still they persist with their plans.
This is the most scenic part of South Lanarkshire and the most tranquil part of the Clyde.
http://www.robedwards.com/2015/05/outrage-over-new-bid-for-huge-quarry-already-rejected-four-times.html (http://www.robedwards.com/2015/05/outrage-over-new-bid-for-huge-quarry-already-rejected-four-times.html)
Alex
Seems to be the way things are in Scotland these days Alex. If you don't like the answer to questions you ask you just repeat the question over and over again until you get the answer you want. It's hard not to conclude that these people have been encouraged to persist with this. A nod and wink.
Scenic and tranquil don't count for much in modern Scotland. Sadly it's probably inevitable that this quarry will be given the go ahead sooner or later. The Scottish Government warned SNH and SEPA not to interfere with economic development.
Perhaps the reality of present day Scotland is we just have to learn to live with these things and travel abroad if we want to spend time in scenic and tranquil wild country spending our money there.
This is going ng to be a hard one to fight. They have the money but you can't give up.
Paul, it seems clear they will just keep trying until they get it. They must have had indications from government that they will win eventually if they keep trying and make a good case. They say that one of their other sites is near its life end and they have a case. The economic development argument is hard to defeat, if it were not our hills would not be bristling with windmills and SSSI sites would not be destroyed to make golf courses. It's always harder when these things end up in your own back yard, but this kind of thing is happening all over Scotland. is it really that big a deal?
I think we need to bank on this going to a public inquiry. We won't get change out of 150k.
Quote from: bibio1 on May 05, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
We won't get change out of 150k.
I would not be holding my breath for donations from the wider angling community.
There are a few quarries down our local river. A huge gravel extraction works and a whinstone quarry up the hill. I have to be honest and say they don't impact on the fishing much if at all and don't affect the peace and quiet. Quite a few lorries going to and fro obviously, but nothing like having the M74 running past like you do on The Clyde. This is nothing like having a hideous intrusive windfarm nearby and it has to be said they unlike windfarms they do employ loads of people.
They will employ around 6 People. This is on the flood plain so the biggest issue is how do you prevent sediment entering the river innvast quantities during a flood.
It'll be a disaster because what they are proposing will eventually turn into a loch in the river.
It's not good Paul, but I doubt much can be done. The planning system in Scotland is stacked in favour of developers and even if the result of a public inquiry was not to favor the development, in the fullness of time, the Scottish Government could and probably would still give it the go ahead on the grounds of economic development. It's clear this will just run on and on until the developers get their way.
Fred
Not all developers are bad. :lol:
But you can never give up.
Quote from: bibio1 on May 06, 2015, 06:36:20 PM
Not all developers are bad. :lol:
Absolutely and I never blame them, all they are doing is looking after their businesses. Whether it's windfarms, quarries, salmon farms ........... etc etc. In any controversial case it's always the politicians who make the final decision. We elect them to make these decisions, so ultimately we are to blame.
Reading some of the background it seems that they have an entry on the landscaping side since that was a reason for rejection before and so modified proposals can amend the design and off you go again with another application and a claim to have addressed that objection.
It is a war of attrition dodging in and about the local plans and the regional planning policies.
It is indeed a war of attrition. There is little point in getting worked up about these things; politics and money will win every time. That's just a fact of life now in Scotland. If you don't like the latest quarry, windfarm or salmon farm you can always vote with your feet and spend your hard earned leisure money elsewhere. C'est la vie.
Fred, that does seem to be a very defeatist outlook.
Things will never change unless people stand up and fight against the system. Surely we should be advocating fighting harder not giving up. It may not be possible to win every fight, but if one application goes through next time we need to fight harder recruit more people.