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Title: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Inchlaggan on April 11, 2013, 12:12:26 PM
Two, independent, sources state that the hotel has been sold and will be run as a hotel.
Both sources have spoken to the new owner and give the same name for the owner that I was given by a third source.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Wildfisher on April 11, 2013, 12:14:22 PM
That's good news. Far too many highland fishing  hotels have gone to the wall already
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Wildfisher on April 11, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: guest on April 11, 2013, 12:16:46 PM
Whay hey  - pub's opening again

That never crossed his mind.  :roll:   :lol:
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Buanán on April 11, 2013, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: admin on April 11, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
That never crossed his mind.  :roll:   :lol:

First thing that crossed mine  :lol:
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Allan Crawford on April 14, 2013, 02:11:16 AM
Hi Ken
I'm sure you'll be glad to get the local back! Hope the new owners are ok  :)
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: fergie on December 16, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
Any updates on this . Do the new owners have a opening date ? Will the fishing be opened up again ?
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Inchlaggan on December 16, 2014, 05:56:34 PM
Nope, and Nope, sorry. This has run and run by pure chance you have posted in the very week that things have changed.
I'll update you as soon as I know anything for certain, but for the moment (for those in the know) Peter is in the mix.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: fergie on December 16, 2014, 07:09:26 PM
So i hear  :roll:
Thanks for the reply  :D.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Inchlaggan on December 16, 2014, 07:59:34 PM
PM me if you need more information (of which I have none, in truth, only gossip).
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Wildfisher on December 17, 2014, 10:56:16 AM
If it does ever re-open, perhaps we could arrange a stravaig there for a few days? It would not be cheap of course, but hell, you don't always have to slum it surely!   :8)
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Inchlaggan on February 12, 2015, 01:27:34 PM
Well, it is official. Tomdoun no more.
The new owner - Richard C Tuxford- and his agents have applied to Highland Council Planning for change of use to a (rather big) Private dwelling.
see-
http://wam.highland.gov.uk/wam/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=NJJT0QIH7R000 (http://wam.highland.gov.uk/wam/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=NJJT0QIH7R000)
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Bobfly on February 12, 2015, 04:48:58 PM
Shame that - another location lost.        I stayed at what was once the Loch Maree Hotel not so long ago ..... but we had the old staff chalet that has now been converted to a small bunkhouse.  :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Inchlaggan on March 02, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
The application for change of use has now received 68 comments- all against.
It has been an eye-opener to me in how such planning applications are now organised.
In this case there seems to no longer be a requirement to inform neighbours by letter or place a notification in the newspapers. You can go to the Council website and search the applications or set up a tracker that will notify you by email if an application in selected postcode areas is made, otherwise nothing. Even Glengarry Community Council were not informed of the proposal.
There were only 23 days to make a comment, so it could have easily been missed.
Originally the decision was delegated to a planning officer, as a result of the number of comments it has now been referred to the Planning Committee- IMHO better placed to determine the future of the property.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: superscot on March 02, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
Just had a wee read over the objections being sent through to the local council department.

All good constructive comments !

But if the council don't agree to planning permission what then happens to the building !

Left to fall apart or worse one of those strange fires that happen ever so often that burns the place to the ground !

I'm unsure myself on this one, simply if i had that sort of cash to purchase and renovate the existing buildings in to a stunning period house. I would be looking to go ahead with it !

Money talks now a days so will follow this one closely.

Did note that the present owners have already started to knock down the outbuildings and seems reduced the main building to a shell.

As it ever being returned to a working hotel that is very unlikely as the costs to start and run the place would make it highly uneconomical.

Is there a time scale for the decision !   
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Inchlaggan on March 02, 2015, 07:39:03 PM
Comments by March 5th, decision by April 9th.
The building has little architectural merit.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: bibio1 on March 02, 2015, 08:11:51 PM
It's now the council's responsibility to notify neighbours.

I'm afraid it looks like the start will favour to current owner.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Inchlaggan on May 20, 2015, 05:11:22 PM
It ended yesterday. Despite over 100 objections and only one comment in favour, Highland Council voted to approve the application to convert the hotel to a private house. One Councillor for our ward attended the meeting but was not part of the committee. His blog says a lot about what goes on. http://highlandactivist.tumblr.com/ (http://highlandactivist.tumblr.com/)
The matter may well make it into the press, with at least two journalists present and interviewing objectors after the meeting.
Those who attended the meeting came away with the distinct impression that, had the application been rejected, an appeal would have been launched and the council could not afford to defend the case and that this was a factor in approving the application.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: rannoch raider on May 20, 2015, 05:25:37 PM
A great pity ! I sat outside  at the big table outside the front door with a cold pint a few years ago. The view was spectacular. There were a number of fishers in residence and It was just a great place to be chilling out. What a shame it's gone.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Wildfisher on May 20, 2015, 06:05:25 PM
Inevitable, but a real shame nonetheless. The reasons for the demise of highland fishing hotels are no doubt manifold, but some of them may just be lack of money and changing times. You would really have to be nuts to take on such a business and expect to get a competitive return on your investment.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: bibio1 on June 01, 2015, 09:09:36 AM
Everything is so accessible now. If you wanted to go fishing for a week in Perthshire 40 years ago what we're your options?

Now you can commute that. Even a days fishing north of Inverness is doable.

The hotels that have survived are on the fringe but for how long.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Wildfisher on June 01, 2015, 10:34:47 AM
Quote from: bibio1 on June 01, 2015, 09:09:36 AM
Now you can commute that. Even a days fishing north of Inverness is doable.

Indeed it is. Joe and I have fished the Fiag River  up at Merkland on a day trip from Aberdeenshire. Good roads and low traffic densities make it a snip. Combine that with high accommodation prices,  poor value for money, dreadful weather,  ugly windfarms etc and it becomes clear why these hotels have been dropping like flies. It's just the way it goes, things change.
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: superscot on January 29, 2020, 10:18:14 PM
Anyone have any info on Tomdoun....it has a lovely new web page https://tomdoun-scotland.co.uk/
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: superscot on January 30, 2020, 11:18:00 AM
This came by email this morning

QuoteGood morning Mr Montgomery,

Thank you for your enquiry about staying with us on the Tomdoun Estate for a week of Fly Fishing and the sole use of luxury accommodation at Tomdoun Sporting Lodge for your party of eight.  Our Estate Ghillie looks forward to welcoming you where we can offer a tailor made package to suit your requirements.  Our price for the week inclusive is £12,000.

We find our customers have varying requirements on Tomdoun Estate from our tailor made package(s) through to the use of any facility we have on offer which you will have seen on our Website.

You are welcome to email or telephone me on Mobile -  07966 649916 for any further discussion.

With kind regards

Angela Barrett
T O M D O U N    E S T A T E



Bit out my price range but pretty sure you will get those daft Americans & Arabs willing to pay that sort of money
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Wildfisher on January 30, 2020, 01:16:51 PM
Only 12K to fish for bandies and get eaten alive with midgies. Not bad at all, I could only get 3 trips to NZ for that.  :lol:
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: superscot on January 30, 2020, 02:36:36 PM
QuoteOnly 12K to fish for bandies and get eaten alive with midgies. Not bad at all, I could only get 3 trips to NZ for that.

Exactly Fred but surly they must have done some homework on pricing in that area it does seem extremely over the top. You're not even getting a pop at one of those big red beasties that apparently, we have too many off, If that's the case then cull them but sell off at a lower price venison in the central belt is pretty high value meat.
Still 12 grand for wee Davie to be at your beckoning call 24 hours a day, and of course the fantastic bandy fishing that comes with it   
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: lnelson20 on January 30, 2020, 02:52:21 PM
A wealth of wonderful trout fishing in magnificent scenery in this country,some remote lovely wee unsung rivers that can produce salmon too,my money would be on a good pair of boots and gaitors
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: Wildfisher on January 30, 2020, 03:15:32 PM
If you make the price high enough some will go based on the exclusivity so they don't have to mix with common people like us.   :roll:

I for one have no desire to spend time at dinner with Annunziata Rees-Mogg or her brother Jake. For me it will always be the double  lamb shank in the Twizel Bistro with riff-raff like Alex Laurie and John Boyles.  :lol:
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: arawa on January 30, 2020, 04:13:21 PM
If only I had 7 friends.......
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Tomdoun Hotel
Post by: fergie on January 30, 2020, 08:55:16 PM
It's all about exclusion of the native people.
Simple as that.!