As our busy forum recently entered its 10th successful year it occurred that we long since left behind any ideas of being narrow and parochial. First big step I suppose was changing the URL from www.wild-fishing-scotland.co.uk (http://www.wild-fishing-scotland.co.uk) to www.wildfisher.co.uk (http://www.wildfisher.co.uk) the next was to get rid of some members who were blatantly and publicly encouraging fishing without permission, using foul language and indulging in behavior that might bring our excellent and respected community into disrepute.
The latest step has been to add a translation facility.
At the top right of each page you will see a new drop-down that allows users to select their language. This will automatically translate all the forum content.
Now let's not kid ourselves this will be a panacea. Language is about far more than just words, so translations are unlikely to be perfect, some might even be absurd to native speakers It is however a start and will make our forum a more welcoming place to international visitors. :D
Tut Tut Fred every kind of lingo bar Scots !!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
It only works with real languages, not dialects. :lol:
There are plenty of contributors whose grasp of English confuses me (and Darwin from time to time).
I am going to love to see what the Google Translator makes of bandie, whumper. Wupert's Wange Wover and Wee Eck.
Good move Fred, well done.
Quote from: Inchlaggan on November 19, 2012, 12:22:39 PM
Good move Fred, well done.
All Hail The Great God Google.
His mission is world domination and paying no UK corporation tax but not necessarily in that order.
Unless The Dark Lord Facebook gets in there first of course.
Talking of Wee Eck, don't tell him - please - we have it in English, Welsh and Irish but nae Gaelic.
It's quite clearly a calculated insult to Scotland. :lol:
Mind you this is my last post in Irish, which is probably close enough. :lol:
Gach Hail The Great Dia Google. Is é a misean forlámhas domhan agus a íoc gan aon chorparáide Ríocht Aontaithe cánach ach ní gá san ord sin. Mura Faigheann an Dark Tiarna Facebook in ann den chéad uair, ar ndóigh. Ag caint ar Wee Eck, nach insint dó - le do thoil - ní mór dúinn é i mBéarla, Breatnais agus Gaeilge, ach théann chuici Gaelic. Tá sé go maith soiléir insult ríomh go hAlbain.
I suppose we should make it clear that all replies must be in English otherwise our moderation team - Sandy and Malcolm are going to be awfy busy. :lol:
Quote from: admin on November 19, 2012, 12:42:03 PM
I suppose we should make it clear that all replies must be in English otherwise our moderation team - Sandy and Malcolm are going to be awfy busy. :lol:
To all Forum Members and Guests.
If you come across any posts you can't read and understand try the Translate button on the top right of the page.
Thank you for your co-operation in this matter. If that doesn't work................TOUGH!!
The Moderator Team
:tongue2
Come now Sandy, that's not the spirit! :lol:
You can use Babel Fish
http://www.babelfish.com/ (http://www.babelfish.com/)
or better - Google Translate
http://translate.google.com/ (http://translate.google.com/)
Incidentally to address Ken's concerns about the translation of "whumper" I cannot really see that being an issue.
Only WFF members catch whumpers and quickly assimilate the concept. :8)
Tried it in the very few languages that I have the merest grasp of.
Bandie, whumper etc seem beyond the Great God Google, but the Latin translation for "Wee Eck" is straight out of "Life of Brian"
Wee Eccius
Quote from: Inchlaggan on November 19, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
Wee Eccius
Thank god for that, I thought you were about to say Bwigus Dwickus :lol:
Quote from: admin on November 19, 2012, 12:42:03 PM
I suppose we should make it clear that all replies must be in English otherwise our moderation team - Sandy and Malcolm are going to be awfy busy. :lol:
lol
Great addition and most helpful (y)
Thanks Christine.
It would be easy to fill the forum with bells and whistles, but this is something I have consciously avoided from day one as they are nothing more than an attempt to distract users' attention from lack of substance.
This translator, however, might be genuinely useful and it is most certainly unobtrusive.
Quote from: admin........ the next was to get rid of some members who were blatantly and publicly encouraging fishing without permission, using foul language and indulging in behavior that might bring our excellent and respected community into disrepute.
Don't tell anyone, but I think you might have missed a few there Fred................. :8)
Quote from: burnie on November 19, 2012, 06:53:08 PM
Don't tell anyone, but I think you might have missed a few there Fred................. :8)
PM me their names. ......................... :lol:
That's it! Those bloody Vikings again! :lol:
Quote from: guest on November 19, 2012, 07:41:36 PM
:lol: :lol:
As for 'whumper' it needs no translation - and if Alan didn't coin the phrase I put it to you it was our viking cousins. :D
http://translate.google.co.uk/#es/sv/whumper (http://translate.google.co.uk/#es/sv/whumper)
Nope, it's pure Weegie, That was the term used up at the Bawrheid dams when I was a teenager for anything over about 12oz. Hadn't heard it for ages, not having lived in Glesga since the 70s, until I read it on the forum a couple of years back.
Weegie eh? :shock:
Fachan was right, the radar is set a bit high. :lol:
It makes the page jump about at every load or refresh and every time one clicks on a forum etc. This is probably due to the insertion mode, which adds a line, ( and subtracts one) every time something is chosen. Quite disconcerting, I don't like things that blink and wobble! :)
That's odd, it works perfectly here Mike. It does translate every age on demand, so perhaps some movement is inevitable. Should not be an issue for you anyway as you can read perfectly well in English. :D
Quote from: admin on November 20, 2012, 09:26:00 AM
That's odd, it works perfectly here Mike. It does translate every age on demand, so perhaps some movement is inevitable. Should not be an issue for you anyway as you can read perfectly well in English. :D
Jumps up and down all the time here, every time I click on something, I thought my Firefox had gone wonky at first. Have blocked it now and everything is back to normal;
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6153/postreplymozillafirefox.png) (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/postreplymozillafirefox.png/)
It inserts itself after the page is laid out Fred, The page drops down as it fits itself in. If you can get it to load before the rest of the page that should help or else have the space where it goes loaded and ready for it the same as you can do with pictures. If the area is already loaded it wont jump the page up and down.
I thought you had disabled it Fred until I looked at the source. It has stopped the jumping up and down but, anyone like me who doesn't have the header expanded, wont see it. That is why I thought you had removed it :)
It's better up there Sandy although the horizontal alignment needs tweaked. The header is expanded by default, if someone collapses it there is more than just the translation box they won't see. It's up to them really.
You also need to load the <script> at the beginning by moving it up to the <head> of the document with the rest leaving only the <div> element where you want it to appear. It will then load before the <div> element is parsed which means it should show right away. At present there is a lag and it loads the <script> after the header and page have loaded.
It's bit more complicated than that Sandy. The page is built dynamically so it can incorporate the vast number of configuration options, theme settings etc. It's not simple HTML.
All your <scripts> should be in the <head> so that they are loaded and ready for the element that is loaded with the <body>. It doesn't matter if it is a .php or .html page. The .php script just uses the .head, .body and. footer to build and layout the page. As long as the elements are in the proper places then they will still work and when the source is viewed, as I am doing, it will look the same as if it was a static .html page :)
The way that page is being built the you have <script> in the .body as well as the .head. The ones in the body aren't loaded until after the .head and .body have been laid out. The <script> should be loaded with the .head so that it is ready for the element when it is loaded with the .body which reduces the lag and means the .body doesn't need re-drawing when the <script> is loaded.
I hope I explained that right, I know what I mean, sometimes it just doesn't come across right :)
With respect Sandy, that is not how this forum software works. It is dynamic, modifiable, configurable, modular and complex. I know exactly what you mean, but that is not how this software works. It is a trivial point in any case and not worth spending time on, it does not matter at all what loads first, in fact it is better this way as all the page functionality will be in place even if the Google site is down or slow and the forum scripts cannot load the translation elements. The box simply will not appear and the forum will continue to work as normal.
Beats me what yer' saying, but, luckily for me, and to get back on topic, it's written in Geordie.