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Title: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 03, 2013, 11:09:31 AM
Seems I am, take the test

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973)   



Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Buanán on April 03, 2013, 11:32:08 AM
"Established middle class" apparently, I'll have you know. Must have been knowing a few farm workers that tipped it  :lol:
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: bibio1 on April 03, 2013, 11:45:50 AM
Thats is so wrong. I tried it hut because i socialise with a solicitor  and listen to classical music sometimes it comes out with completwly the wrong answer.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Inchlaggan on April 03, 2013, 11:52:11 AM
Technical Middle Class apparently.Puts me somewhere between Ronnie Barker and John Cleese, must be based on my height!
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: ddp712 on April 03, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Emergent service workersThis class group is financially insecure, scoring low for savings and house value, but high for social and cultural factors. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

Are young
Enjoy a cultured social life
Rent their home - almost 90%
PrecariatThis is the poorest and most deprived class group. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:
Tend to mix socially with people like themselvesCome from a working class backgroundRent their home - over 80%
Reset Share your results


Haha Brilliant
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: River Chatter on April 03, 2013, 01:03:09 PM
Apparently, I'm Technical Middle Class under this new social stratification method.  I'm so happy to have shed my underclass badge.  Social mobility's great, I can hold my head high in M&S at last and look forward to the security guards following someone else around the store for a change.  Now, where do I get my t-shirt to show off my new found social standing. :lol:

Interestingly, the new test doesn't ask about education, which I'd have thought would be significant.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 03, 2013, 01:16:02 PM
Quote from: bibio1 on April 03, 2013, 11:45:50 AM
Thats is so wrong. I tried it hut because i socialise with a solicitor  and listen to classical music sometimes

Interesting - I did it again and clicked the solicitor box. Suddenly I am established middle class.  :lol:  What a load of tripe.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: bushy palmer on April 03, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
"New affluent workers" - Fuckin AFFLUENT!! :roflmao

I don't have a pot to piss in!

Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Billy on April 03, 2013, 01:42:14 PM
It would appear that I am Elite.

Bit of a shock as I always thought of myself as working class. I may need to look for a more elitist forum although some think i am there already   :worms
Billy
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: haresear on April 03, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
I know my place :lol:

Alex
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: alancrob on April 03, 2013, 02:35:42 PM
I am working class. Apparently I am elite amongst the working class. I think it is because I have some savings and I know teachers!

"I still look up to him because although I have money, I am vulgar."

A.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Inchlaggan on April 03, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
Played around with the test.
Leaving all other (honest) answers the same, it seems I rise and fall through the social strata based on my taste in music.
So I am dumping my Eminem CD and replacing it with my Three Tenors one.
Then I will look down on the lot of you and go fishen' for salming wif Wupert.
As I wish to leave the CD collection alone, and not be accused of elitism, it seems I will have to shun my dear neighbours the solicitor and university lecturer.
If this forum is considered "socialising" (which, IMHO, it is) then I can probably tick every box in the occupations list.
So I'll stick with Burns- A man's a man.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 03, 2013, 03:22:40 PM
Quote from: haresear on April 03, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
I know my place :lol:

:roflmao

Wish I'd thought of that 
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 03, 2013, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: Inchlaggan on April 03, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
If this forum is considered "socialising" (which, IMHO, it is) then I can probably tick every box in the occupations list.
So I'll stick with Burns- A man's a man.

It's perhaps as well there was no tick box for this forum.  :lol:
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: bibio1 on April 03, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
Well i am  elite workin class that defo did not go to a private school. I will try not to forget ma auld arse. Me thinks  monty  python had it right.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: garryh on April 03, 2013, 06:33:07 PM
technical middle class !!!!.what an insult !!.a lot of mumbo jumbo to call working class people something else.working class seems to be a dirty word these days i would always think of myself as working class same as my parents.anyone who actually aspires to be middle class is wanker class. rant over  :lol: :lol:

Garry
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 03, 2013, 06:34:29 PM
My mistake was ticking the "have you ever fished for pike"  box.  :lol:
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: burnie on April 03, 2013, 07:01:17 PM
What a load of tosh, I am not established middle class,just because of who I socialise with,it didn't mention anywhere that I mix with worm drowners and fluff chuckers.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 03, 2013, 10:24:33 PM
Jim, have you taken the Christmas tree doon yet?   :lol:

Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: bibio1 on April 04, 2013, 08:58:05 AM
Its actually quite pathetic. I dont think a class system exists in scotland. Down south is different. What is termed elite do look upon everyone as shite under their shoe. Its also interesting to note that scotland only has 14% working class and 10% elite. Whereas the uk has around the same Percentage od working class but only 6% elite.

Most folk up hear just treat everyone the same. There are those at each end of the spectrum who are so stuck up and so neddy that they dont even count, and in that huge generalisation neds can still be elite.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 04, 2013, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: Alan on April 04, 2013, 01:02:43 AM
the more important factor is how much time you have

Yes and what you do with it. I know plenty of folk who are not happy unless they are working and making money. Can't say many of them are content and all of them are continually complaining about being broke. Spending has the uncanny habit of expanding to take up available resources. Do you really need that new 3 pc suite , that  Sage rod, that new car?    ........  I suspect not. If you don't drink or smoke it's astonishing how little you can live on.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: River Chatter on April 04, 2013, 10:21:46 AM
Quote from: admin on April 04, 2013, 10:10:10 AM
If you don't drink or smoke it's astonishing how little you can live on.

Perhaps you could shack up with Duncan Smith for a couple of weeks and show us all Fred!  You can pick up your £53 for week one at the post office... hurry though, there's a queue of time rich octogenarians gathering! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 04, 2013, 10:42:51 AM
IDS 50 quid / week claim may be a touch low, but that does not alter the fact that you can live on little if you choose to. Fags, beer, new fly rods, trips to NZ etc are luxuries none of us really need. If you can't afford them you can't afford them so you can't have them.  Food for example is not expensive if you watch what you buy. Eat less meat, no ready meals,  more cheap veg, cut out the fags and drink and you can live a long, healthy  and miserable life.  :lol:   

To be serious though we are all going to have to get used to less. This country is skint, our savings are being eroded, our incomes cut. Arguably it's a natural correction, false wealth based on inflated property values created false prosperity and debt. Nothing in nature grows forever. There is always a correction. We had it good, now we are paying the bill.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 04, 2013, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Alan on April 04, 2013, 05:02:01 PM
Skintsville is just around the corner.

Since 2008 our governments have eroded the value of any savings you may have by more than the 10% the Cypriot government has taken from their depositors and that affects ALL savings, not just for folk with over 100K Euros as in Cyprus. I'm not making this up - an economist stated this yesterday on Radio 4 and was not challenged.  This is just the tip of the iceberg. Britain is not fixable, the only way national debt can be reduced is by inflation. This brings down the real value of debt nicely and it's the only way it can be done as has been made obvious by the furor over the very modest cuts that have been made so far.  Government debt is still rising. Basically  we are f****d.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Inchlaggan on April 04, 2013, 05:34:15 PM
From whom (or what institutions) are our governments borrowing these billions?
I've yet to receive a decent answer to that question.
In the simple terms that I understand, the lenders have to have the cash to hand in order to make the loan and then make a return on the interest charged and will thus become richer.
Can I be on their side?
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Wildfisher on April 04, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
It's the "money markets" innit?   In other words smoke and mirrors. It makes no odds anyway, whoever the lenders are we are borrowing more than we can afford. That can't  go on as it is  and it won't. It's us who  are and will have to continue  paying  for it - the working and middle classes. "Quantitative easing" - or printing money as  it used to be called - drives up inflation, reduces the value of debt and savings. Mind you it could be argued that our savings  were artificially boosted in the first place and that this is no more than a correction.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: burnie on April 04, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
What are these savings? poor wages through my life have meant I've had a comfortable life,interspersed with three spells of unemployment(must remember to thank that nice Mrs Thatcher for that).Endowment mortgage that was going to be worth a fortune,that ended up with me owing money to the blody lender. A pension that was going to be ok,that is now looking like I could be working up to I'm 65 and maybe part time afterwards and this silly quiz thing has me as established middle class, feel really sorry for the others.
We really do need a revolution,not just in the uk,but world wide to stop the money makers driving us into the ground. Some people earn more money working in the broken banks than the worlds top paid footballers, pop stars or actors. Maybe they're all over paid and we should share the money round better,but I think that is too late,Thatcher made everyone too greedy.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: bibio1 on April 04, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
The tax credit system that was put in place wasn't to help those with low incomes. Cynics would think it was put in place to subsidise business and allow them to pay below subsistence wages.

A full time job should feed you and put a roof over ur heed as a minimum. Politicians are complicit because it means unemployment figures are down.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: zeolite on April 04, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
My first time gave me "established middle class" but with some judicious choices I got to "elite". I denied I knew nurses, postal workers and lorry drivers.

However I neither went to a private school or elite university and have a distinctly blue collar background ( toolmaker father and farmworker grandparents). I consider myself a triumph of social mobility having gone from shovelling manure to hobnobbing with the social elite!
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: burnie on April 04, 2013, 10:42:18 PM
The way I was taught was if you needed money you made something then sold it, now the current thinking is you sell shares in virtual business that makes nothing. When I left school a careers advice bloke said " go into engineering,they'll always want something made".He was partly right,but the things are either made by a foreign owned company or made in China.
Title: Re: Are You Traditional Working Class n' that?
Post by: Allan Crawford on April 15, 2013, 05:59:28 AM
Established Middle Class, dont know how as I voted for Indie music, know postal workers and lorry drivers, found it quiet funny  :D
Then the post turned to the economy and Fred hit the nail on the head a few times, I'm certainly feeling it, reckon my wages have gone down at least 30% in real terms. The only one getting rich from me is the chancellor and the fucking mother in law  :(
But that is the legacy that Blair left us with and the other is my fault though things are going to change soon for better or worst.

Update: I couldnt resist doing it again so I did and I'm still Established Middle Class so it must be right  :)