Canoe License?

[sinbad]

No you pick it up walk down and put it in the water. No equipment or motorised element involved. Exactly the same rules as going for a walk with a tent in your backpack.

[Inchlaggan]

No you pick it up walk down and put it in the water. No equipment or motorised element involved. Exactly the same rules as going for a walk with a tent in your backpack.

Exactly.
Which makes rod, canoe, boots and tent all in the same ball-park. Licenses do not require that you have obtained permission to fish, paddle, walk or camp. That the last three do not require permission under the Land Reform Act does not matter much to the argument- make those that enjoy such resources contribute to their maintenance/protection. This also appeals to those whose property/rights have been abused. Win-win for SG.

[Fishtales]

http://www.breadalbane.com/activity/boating.htm


'Launching is not permitted from private land including the Forestry Commision picnic area, the Hotel Pool and the beach.'

Charging to launch isn't denying access.

[sinbad]

Putting a canoe in the water does not mean the same as launching a boat. If you use facilities fine you pay but otherwise its like putting up a no walking/hiking sign. The access code is very much on your side.

[Wildfisher]

Which makes rod, canoe, boots and tent all in the same ball-park.

The more I think about this the more sure I am  this is where we are ultimately heading. It makes absolute sense. It would enable the SG to keep tabs on us, know who does what, enable a level of control that is not currently possible  and best of all it could be justified by raising "user pays"  revenue for "improvements".

[Fishtales]

Putting a canoe in the water does not mean the same as launching a boat. If you use facilities fine you pay but otherwise its like putting up a no walking/hiking sign. The access code is very much on your side.

It floats, it's a boat, it has to be launched. There are lightweight boats that can be carried and don't need facilities to launch. Charging for the right to launch would be the same as charging for the right to fish. Anglers don't pay for the right of access nor for the use of the water only for their activity whilst there so paying for permission to launch would be no different.

[sinbad]

So soon i will be needing separate rod, canoe, boot and camping license for a day out. Is this any Scottish government or only when i vote yes ? I'm far from convinced any of them are likely and will not be buying any of them. Sb. 

[sinbad]

Sandy a boat light enough to be carried whether you call it a boat a canoe or a log is covered by the access agreement. It would be the same as charging to walk or swim.

[corsican dave]

http://www.docs.hss.ed.ac.uk/education/outdoored/spey_economic_impact_study.pdf

i found this study which highlights some of the conflicting interests and puts some financial meat on the bones. there's even reference to the promotion of fishing in mountain lochs :shock:

if i can download this report you can bet the would-be revenue collectors have.

It floats, it's a boat, it has to be launched. There are lightweight boats that can be carried and don't need facilities to launch. Charging for the right to launch would be the same as charging for the right to fish. Anglers don't pay for the right of access nor for the use of the water only for their activity whilst there so paying for permission to launch would be no different.

currently the access legislation is firmly on the side of non-motorised transport. therefore if you're able to carry in a rowing boat then right now you can't be prevented from accessing the water. it's not just for canoes!

So soon i will be needing separate rod, canoe, boot and camping license for a day out.  Sb. 

sadly,  i think you may be correct. that's if you're allowed out at all! we need new towns and renewable energy above all, remember :roll:

[corsican dave]

You don't pay to use a boat for leisure in the UK waters - why tax canoes?

actually Andy you require a licence to use boats on statutory navigations in england. that applies to canoes too. membership of the british canoe union covers you for most of the statutory waterways, but not all of them. river chelmer in essex, for example. crap, isn't it?