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Title: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on March 04, 2010, 08:10:02 PM
I have been treated by some very generous family members to 2 days fishing for silver tourists on the Tay on 2 saturdays in April,it having been my birthday.
Now the reality dawns,I've never seriously fished for Salmon on a "proper" water.I shall ring "my" ghillie,Jim Last nearer the day,but would welcome some "advice" on how to behave.
Am I allowed to curse and swear if I lose a fish,hurl abuse at anyone within close proximity if I don't get a touch?
No doubt I'll arrive with more flys than Mallochs,but what else should I take.
Do I have to bribe the ghillie with a bottle to get put on some fish or is it going to be a lovely day oot?
All answers on a post card to "desperate" of Inverkeilor.
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: DufferNumber1 on March 05, 2010, 07:00:20 AM
hi i have fished waukmill often latest being monday past losing a clean fish approx 20lbs :at the net i would take some spinning gear as you will have a go at harling gillie jimmy last is a smashing guy he will keep you right he also has harling gear waukmillis alovely place to fish tight lines on the day yours in fishing jimmy
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on March 05, 2010, 01:17:18 PM
Thanks for the replies,I do have a 1 3/4lb test spinning rod and could take both a small multiplyer and fixed spool reels.Is it still a combiination of tobys and flying condoms for lures?
I bought a double handed Salmon rod in an auction a few years ago,but have never used it as I always have got on fine with a single handed trout rod on the smaller rivers like the Isla ans Ericht.
Looks like some casting practice on the village park before I go then :D
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: Clan Ford on March 05, 2010, 01:41:59 PM
Burnie,

When I was talking to Martin the Ghillie at the Grayling Stravaig he reckoned that Devons were a good bet on the Tay, particullarly early in the season.  He was wishing that more of his anglers would spin as he was sure that they would get better returns using that in the spring....

Might be worth dropping him a PM or checking out some of the salmon forums?

Norm
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on March 05, 2010, 02:56:23 PM
Malcolm suggested I contact Martin,I will do just that(though it's a rivals beat I'm on),don't think I've got any usable Devons,gonna have to visit a tackle shop.
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: zeolite on March 05, 2010, 06:02:12 PM
Devons are what the gillies recommend at that end of the Tay. I would get some floating ones and weights to pull them down as that is a nice and effective way to fish with them. I find that fishing the sinkers go for my shoulder after a while. The advantage of the floater is that they can be controlled to be off the bottom that little bit to avoid snags. (some of the time anyway)
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on March 05, 2010, 07:39:31 PM
Do you fish the devons with a three way swivel and a weak link to the weight?My multiplyer is loaded with braid,would that be suitable for Salmon on the lower river,braid can be easily cut if it's very rocky.
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: haresear on March 06, 2010, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: burnie on March 05, 2010, 07:39:31 PM
Do you fish the devons with a three way swivel and a weak link to the weight?My multiplyer is loaded with braid,would that be suitable for Salmon on the lower river,braid can be easily cut if it's very rocky.

That's what I did burnie, when I used to fish the Tay. I used drilled bullets stopped with a split shot and an overhand knot on a weak link of 10lb b.s. The reason for the bullet in preference to an Arlesey bomb is that the bomb can wobble in the current.

The thinking at that time was to use light colours in cold water. Yellow, fluorescent pink etc.

Like Zeolite, I preferred to fish a light wooden or plastic devon on a heavy lead. You get no line twist that way as the lead acts as an anti kink.

The best of luck Burnie

Alex
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on March 06, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
Thanks for your advice lads,trawling the tinternet for ideas,odd fish being caught it would seem from a low clear river.
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on March 28, 2010, 06:34:52 PM
Just an update,this "free" fishing is working out a bit expensive,?25 on devon minnows in Dundee,then on to Perth.Another ?20 on tube flies(not got any of those so had to get a few,just in case) and then there was a 14' fly rod that kept winking at me and of course my lines were all too light to work this.Then I got sprung by her indoors,who'd got me by the throat in the high street,much to the astonishment of the shoppers.Went down to the fishing hut and had a blether with the boat man and 2 anglers who were braving the elements,so all ready to go.Sorting out the spinning gear after having just amused the neighbours "fishing" on the village park,new rods great.
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: alba on March 28, 2010, 06:50:54 PM
as previously said, flying c's a good shout but id be fishing the devon, floating ones, i believe red with gold belly is good for this time of year, fish it with a bouncing betty or a 6inch dropper on its own about a foot from the point with split shots on it till u find the weight you need

Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on March 28, 2010, 08:12:22 PM
Thanks alba,that's part of the plan,not sure the blizzards that are forecast are part of the plan though.
Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: Hoolet on April 01, 2010, 08:34:51 PM
Fishing the floating devon:

you`ll find,especially on the Tay,you`ll need a good bouncing betty on a swivel smaller than the one on your main line which allows the betty to freeline above,a 3/4 foot length to the devon and its away you go!!
over the past couple of years my killers have been black/white,yellowbelly,lemon drop(metallic yellowish gold colour) or "the ghost" (all white)
Best betty`s ive got are from Jock Tait,ghillie on upper Redgorton 10 for a tenner.

apart from the upstream worm,its the best spinning of the lot,theres alot of skill in lifting the devon over the boulders where you know the fish might lurk,the trick is in getting the weight just right!

Best of luck,ive still a few weeks to wait till i can get after the big boys,and im climbing the walls already!

George.

Title: Re: River Tay Waulkmill
Post by: burnie on April 01, 2010, 09:22:26 PM
Errrr,right out of bouncing bettys',don't recall seeing them in the shops :D