anybody got any idea when Bob Wyatts new book is due out.his website has mentioning it for some time now.
Garry
I heard, recently, they were just doing the photos for the book. Comming soon. Not soon enough.
Je**s when I saw the avatar I thought black don had changed his name :roll:
Bob's new book "What Trout Want" is now available to pre-order via Amazon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/What-Trout-Want-Bob-Wyatt/dp/081171179X (http://www.amazon.co.uk/What-Trout-Want-Bob-Wyatt/dp/081171179X)
Alex
Just recieved an e-mail from Amazon regarding my order for this book:-
QuoteWe regret to inform you that we have been unable to source the following item:
Bob Wyatt "What Trout Want: The Educated Trout and Other Myths"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/081171179X (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/081171179X)
Our supplier has informed us that this item is no longer available.
I presume others have had similar messages?
Jim
http://swiftflyfishing.com/products/what-trout-want-bob-wyatt (http://swiftflyfishing.com/products/what-trout-want-bob-wyatt)
http://midcurrent.com/books/what-trout-want-a-beautiful-fiction/ (http://midcurrent.com/books/what-trout-want-a-beautiful-fiction/)
http://swiftflyfishing.com/collections/books/products/what-trout-want-book-and-twin-dvd-set (http://swiftflyfishing.com/collections/books/products/what-trout-want-book-and-twin-dvd-set)
Mike thanks for links, think if I order it I will get from Abebooks:- http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=9234172872&searchurl=an%3Dbob%2Bwyatt%26bt.x%3D58%26bt.y%3D18%26sts%3Dt%26tn%3DWhat%2Btrout%2Bwant (http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=9234172872&searchurl=an%3Dbob%2Bwyatt%26bt.x%3D58%26bt.y%3D18%26sts%3Dt%26tn%3DWhat%2Btrout%2Bwant)
I have a sneaking suspicion that Amazon were selling it at a loss and withdrew it from sale. I do not remember what price they were selling it for, it has been completely removed from my account.
Jim
Got it today, read the first half dozen chapters.
First impressions; a slightly tighter, more focussed version of Trout Hunting, with better production qualities. Almost like he had another go at writing the same book.
A lot more 'How-to' , he wastes no time in getting to the nub of his approach whilst demolishing, in a good natured and reasonable way, the assumptions of previous writers.
Business as usual then, and no bad thing, a fishing writer who actually has something tangible to say.
I hadn't realised it was actually now available. Must go order a copy.
It's available over here, got mine yesterday but have not have had time to read it.
now available from numerous suppliers on amazon from around £10.50 + postage (against cover price of £16)
Got it on ebay (new hardback) for £14 inc P+P
I am really looking forward to this. Bob is a very different writer. :D
Got the book today. It's hard to put it down. Bob is a great writer.
got my copy today,superb,one of the few writers around with something different to say.as Fred say's its hard to put down .i can tell already its one i will read again and again.
Garry
After the initial "surge" I am now working my way through the book slowly. Rather than read it all in one or two sittings I decided to take it a few paragraphs at a time and think about what I'd read.
Now to be honest, so far, this book is very similar to Trout Hunting and to many of the articles and ideas Bob had published in magazines. He appears to have brought it all together here in a very structured way. It's worth buying for that alone.
The great inspiration I am taking from it is simplicity. I am inclined to further rationalize my flies and carry a greater range of sizes of a fewer patterns.
I have also pretty much decided to stop tying parachute patterns and Klinkhamers, life is too short, tying them is too tedious. Klinks can be replaced by DHE / Dirty Duster / Dirty Poly designs and parachutes by good old fashioned easy to tie collar hackles clipped level underneath.
I want to use flies I can tie in a minute.
Generally, what stands out is the excellent writing style. No bullshit, no ego, no self-flattery, concise and clear. Very easy to read.
OK, that's an interim "review", I'll probably write more later once I have read some more.
I have trout hunting (probably should re-read this) and read all his mag articles so not sure if I need the latest book, what the hell put it on the christmas list :)
A book that re- assures me I dont have to find time to tie the fly patterns i' ve no time to tie sounds worth the time out to read .... I' m off to get my copy ordered lets face it the arm chair is still first choice with thr great british weather :roll:
Have nt read any of Bob Wyatts books but im going to , which one do i want or is it worth getting them all ? Sb.
Have to say, this is a serious addition to fly-fishing literature.
He gets right into the big stuff, why does a fish take our fly, without all the fanciful,or dogmatic guff you see elsewhere.
On the other hand.. if you go to say, South Uist, you'll be waiting a long time before you see a hatch of flies and the chance to imitate them with suggestive emergers.
It's written from a New Zealand perspective, his comments about scottish loch fishing are limited to trout activity v mayfly hatches, so it doesn't really cover the spectrum of that fond area.
He doesn't have much to say about pounding up fish from dour lochs
But I think his approach to this whole business is sound.
Quote from: deergravy on March 23, 2013, 10:19:22 PM
On the other hand.. if you go to say, South Uist, you'll be waiting a long time before you see a hatch of flies and the chance to imitate them with suggestive emergers.
It's written from a New Zealand perspective, his comments about scottish loch fishing are limited to trout activity v mayfly hatches, so it doesn't really cover the spectrum of that fond area.
Spot on, but with one disagreement. It's written mainly from a river fly fisher's rather than a New Zealand perspective - New Zealand is not really a "hatch driven" fishery - most certainly not anytime I have been there and Pete Carty says that himself. I think it's fair to say that the loch only fly fisher may get less out of it than a river man but that it is still very much worth reading as trout are trout.
Ah im a scots hill loch man maybe not the book for me :? Scots hill loch trout are not NZ river trout
Maybe a slight discerning voice but I for one will not be buying it. I was not overly keen on Trout Hunting so I do not see anything much coming from the "new" book other than more of the same. Oh he is a good enough writer I'll grant you that but the few articles I have read in the mags, left me feeling that he did not fully understand our fishing. He certainly did not understand some of our old traditional patterns as the few pictures I have seen of his tyings bore little or no resemblance to what they are supposed to look like.
Seems like some/most of you guys will enjoy & that is fine, but not for me.
Tight Lines
I've got the book and I am struggling to get into it. I've not read Trout Hunting so maybe you need to read that first to get into his writing style and way of thinking.
Jim
I have it on order and will let you know what i think.
What I like about Bob Wyatt is the way he doesn't blithely accept dogma and is brave enough to say so in print..
Alex
Quote from: haresear on March 24, 2013, 01:10:24 AM
What I like about Bob Wyatt is the way he doesn't blithely accept dogma and is brave enough to say so in print..
Agreed ..............
...... and can I add that Bob does not and never has claimed his flies are anything new. For example the DHE is simply a floating hares ear nymph - his words not mine. It all depends which way you come at this - as I said above if you are a loch only - or perhaps better - a loch style only man - you will take less from it and may well fish his flies the wrong way.
Bob's writing style and the DVDs of him tying the flies reflect exactly what the guy is like in real life. If you are a fly fisherman he is a very interesting person to have a few beers with. If you can't then the books and DVDs are a decent substitute.
I'd recommend both. His cut-down tying methods are a breath of fresh air.
i reckon it could open a few loch fishers eyes too if they have open minds on the subject.wet flies must be the worst immitations of real flies going around and his theory that because of size and movement the fish only sees it as something that may be edible rings true for me.if fish were able to remember flies they would not be fooled by wets .
Garry
Well I finished this book the other day. In my opinion it's well worth reading, but I am a fan of authors who demystify / simplify rather than complicate things. A first class, no bullshit read.