Wondered how long it would take them Sage new rod £1000 followed closely by Orvis Helios & Hardy. £950 + Tackle tarts will be at the head of the queue though. LOL
You can buy 20 x £50 Daiwa rod for one Sage. Surely Sage are not that much better well not £1000 are they or are we just getting ripped off?
Thoughts please
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Sage rods are good, but NO rod is worth £1000. Utter nonsense.
Sage and others must believe there are enough buyers out there.
I guess we'll see how long it's on the market for, that'll be an indication that they're selling some. I'll not be front of the queue though, that's for sure!
If you can afford a Test membership I'm sure you can afford one of these too. ::)
I'm sure the sales will do well with the amount of eliteism in fly fishing outside of Scotland and Wales
I confess. I have a Tom Morgan Rodsmith 8'6" #5 that was a "significant birthday" present some years ago.
It is as much a piece of art as a fishing rod and although it casts a dry fly beautifully it is probably the last rod I pick out for a day's fishing. Cannot explain why as I always enjoy using it but then so do I enjoy using my venerable Sage RPL+ or my Hardy Smuggler that all catch me fish😀.
Quote from: Highlander on February 22, 2023, 10:51:22 PM
Wondered how long it would take them Sage new rod £1000 followed closely by Orvis Helios & Hardy. £950 + Tackle tarts will be at the head of the queue though. LOL
You can buy 20 x £50 Daiwa rod for one Sage. Surely Sage are not that much better well not £1000 are they or are we just getting ripped off?
Thoughts please
Tight Lines
Some years back the Sage materials designer was in the Hebrides and he gave a little presentation to a small group of anglers in a fishing shop in Stornoway one evening. It was a really interesting evening and it does appear that Sage are putting considerable R&D effort into materials, and new materials technology. They are based in an area where there is lots of aircraft building and have close ties to the aircraft industry when it comes to getting new composite materials. I personally have no need for new materials but all that R&D has a cost and getting to use "new stuff" clearly has an appeal to some anglers and that is great.
As some may know I tend to fish Leeda 11 foot rods for almost all of my fishing but I do have two rods built on Sage blanks and occasionally they get used and they are good rods. One of them was built for my by a US rod builder by the name of Dave Lewis and it is a really lovely rod. Like David with his Tom Morgan rod I enjoy fishing it but it doesn't actually get used very often.
So I'm all for Sage making £1k rods and for people fishing them if they want but I hope it doesn't kill the market for sub-£100 rods as those are what I mostly enjoy fishing and get most fun out of.
A lot of money can disappear into RnD. With Orvis, 25% of their total expenditure is on advertising.
I have a SageXP 8.5ft 5wt and a small 7.5ft Loomis built by a chap in Wales. Both really nice to use so they are each out only once a year in case I break it. Daft really !!
Check this out - very relevant to this discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgaK1x1GtT4
This reminds me of the giys who took several Shakey Oracles each to Norway (might have been Russia), rather than one or two better (800 quid +) rods each. All the rods had similar actions and performance.
In short, all the Oracles broke. You get what you pay for.
I saw a pair of waders in the angling megastore for 1K+. Simms, of course...I'm sure as light as a feather...but imagine tearing those on the first barbed wire fence...
I would burst out greeting if that happened.
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I have never had a rod break on me during normal use irrespective of price. did see one mid-priced Snowbee rod snap but it was not mine
You can have all the finest gear known to man at prices that would make your eyes water does it make you a better fisherman ........nah you are what you are ...
I'm a sucker for expensive tackle but like to think I do alright when it comes to fishing too.
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I have never had a rod break on me during normal use irrespective of price. did see one mid-priced Snowbee rod snap but it was not mine
I have a Dave Lewis rod, on a Sage blank, and I knew (via email mostly) Dave for many years before his death and he always maintained that he'd never seen a rod just magically break. His view was that you could trace almost all breaks to the angler having done something wrong. Dave offered a sort of "lifetime" warranty on his rods and so he occasionally got one back that had broken. He would always study them closely to see if he could determine why it broke and almost without fail he found it had been hit with the fly or banged or crushed in some other way. I'm going to guess that very occasionally he had a break due to manufacturing problems.
I only ever had one rod break and it was during perfectly normal casting, I was just lifting off when the rod snapped. I'm fairly certain that I must have done something like hit it with the fly but I never put it under the microscope to find out, based on Dave's considerable experience and experimentation I just assumed that I'd done something wrong in the past to cause the failure.
Anyone wanting to while away a few hours over a wet weekend could do a lot worse than take a look at Dave's web page and his photo journals which record some of his fishing. Needless to say you can't buy his rods any more but it is still nice to look at them and at his images of his fishing outings:
http://www.davelewisflyrods.com/journals.html
I have twice had unused new out of the tube rods break. Both times casting on a patch of grass close to the shop and with someone from the shop each time, luckily. No fly, their reel and line and their bit of wool on 5ft of mono. Both times they said " you would be surprised at how often this happens, we get lots of breakers". They were both Greys rods.
I was in the Glasgow angling centre yesterday and saw Sage rods over £1200 but that shop has always been an expensive shop.
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