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Title: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: fishindaft on August 08, 2011, 12:43:14 PM
I'm fishing in Assynt this weekend for the first time and after reading Daves post about fishing rivers like flowing hot chocolate does anybody think heavy rain can impact on the quality of fishing in our lochs. And if so what flies/tactics would you use when fishing after prolonged heavy rain like the forecast for this week ?

John
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Guddler on August 08, 2011, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: Steve on August 08, 2011, 09:04:10 PM
I seldom have any sport on a loch where rain has raised the water level by more than an inch or two, but maybe that's just me
Steve

That's been my experience too, hard going to interest a fish in taking the fly.
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Part-time on August 10, 2011, 12:00:23 AM
On my best day on an Assynt loch last season it rained heavily all day. Despite the heavy rain I still got most fish on the surface (DHE, DHS, CDC/Elk). Fishing the burns themselves is supposed to be pretty good in that area if you can catch them at the right height.

John     
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: deergravy on August 11, 2011, 08:51:19 PM
Bob Wyatt did a fine, fascinating article about this some time ago in FF&FT, based, in large part, on his experiences fishing Assynt over several years.
He found that rivers which normally contain only small fish would recieve an influx of big fish making their way up from lochs during a spate.
As the water receded, the big ones would drop back down to the sanctuary of the loch.
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: davefromtheattic on August 12, 2011, 12:56:38 AM
That's in Trout Hunting as well, isn't it?
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: davefromtheattic on August 12, 2011, 10:16:15 AM
Good show braving the elements on Wed, PA. I was delivering the mail in it, letters disintegrating all over the shop. I find the same with any jacket I've tried.
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: ibm59 on August 12, 2011, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: davefromtheattic on August 12, 2011, 12:56:38 AM
That's in Trout Hunting as well, isn't it?

Yes.
Superb book. :)
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: fishindaft on August 12, 2011, 10:49:17 AM
Weather forecast looking not to bad for the wknd now so hopefully the father in laws dodgy hip holds up and we can catch a few troot.
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Wildfisher on August 12, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: deergravy on August 11, 2011, 08:51:19 PM
Bob Wyatt did a fine, fascinating article about this some time ago in FF&FT, based, in large part, on his experiences fishing Assynt over several years.

Didn't Allan Liddle claim that fishing for bigger trout running out of lochs into burns during high water was his idea or did he lift it from Bob?  :?

Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Malcolm on August 12, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
 :shock:"Bob Wyatt And Alan Liddle rediscover Auld Boab's secret habits of trout in high water" Must have been for an article in T&S or Trout fisherman. I've heard about regurgitating common knowledge but that really takes the biscuit, please tell me they were advising newcomers to the sport!   
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Wildfisher on August 13, 2011, 05:31:51 PM
Certainly nothing new Malcolm, but to be fair Bob Wyatt has a pleasant and  easy to read style and did mostly write with insight and originality. He was a big loss to FF&FT. 
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: deergravy on August 13, 2011, 09:05:20 PM
Quote from: Malcolm on August 12, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
I've heard about regurgitating common knowledge but that really takes the biscuit, please tell me they were advising newcomers to the sport!   
Well...no.
I don't think the extent to which large, loch fish will migrate up and down inflowing burns is fully understood by most fishermen.
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Malcolm on August 13, 2011, 10:57:05 PM
I think I was first told of this when I started fishing and as children we would fish the bottom of the burns in high water.

Interestingly it's not just browns: Arthur Cove wrote about targeting rainbows in the inlet brooks of the English reservoirs for rainbows in the high water - I'm almost sure it's also mentioned in his book - picking up big fish in streams and channels that most people bypass without a second look.

Edward Fahy in Child of the Tides also said that seatrout also would run up non natal rivers in high water but would return to the sea and run their natal rivers when it came to spawning time.

Coincidently about 3 weeks ago I was talking to Hare's Ear (Alex) about a fishing a burn which is the outflow of a famed big fish loch and of the fish which take up residence there when the water is high.
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Wildfisher on August 13, 2011, 11:00:31 PM
Trout will move anywhere they feel secure that offers them food.  Alex and I have caught big trout in flooded fields in NZ.
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Allan Crawford on August 15, 2011, 09:39:22 PM
Ive had success on burns/rivers going into large lochs after heavy rain such that I would consider getting out of the boat to give the burns ago. Another vote for Bobs book !
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: blueriver on March 22, 2012, 06:12:07 PM
Does anyone know why the big fish ascend the burns during a spate? I recognise the burn mouths would be productive due to the many food items which were being washed down into the loch in a flood but running up them when it's not spawning season. I realise this is an old fred but I'm new to the forum so bear with me if I turn up an occasional oldie  :D
Title: Re: Lochs after persistent heavy rain?
Post by: Its Me on March 22, 2012, 06:54:55 PM
its a race to get to the best feeding area so the further up the burn they can get the more feeding there will be.
well thats what i think.

         andy