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Title: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: paulr on May 11, 2010, 11:51:20 AM
I never bother degreasing the end of my leader when fishing dries, I normally just wet it with a bit of saliva, but recently I have noticed that sometimes the mono is very obvious laying on the water surface and I'm starting to think it certainly must spook fish.
What are other folks views on this, and what degreaser do you use? Fullers earth? Xink? Fairy liquid?
cheers
Paul
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: River Chatter on May 11, 2010, 12:05:15 PM
I use the Orvis Mud stuff, but it doesn't seem to make much difference and then only for a short while before more is needed.   :?
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: Wildfisher on May 11, 2010, 01:36:06 PM
Quote from: The Whaup on May 11, 2010, 12:43:51 PM
I await to hear myself other people's thoughts on what kind of line is best for sinking.

I've never had any trouble getting the olive Barrio or the Snowbee XS to sink.
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: River Chatter on May 11, 2010, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: Alan on May 11, 2010, 01:50:23 PM
someone one suggested putting a small nymph on a dropper and fishing a dry on the point, sinks the nylon, i tried this and caught consistantly on the nymph, since then the dry has become suspiciously nymph looking.

That's a method I've used in the past on flat calms when fishing CDC's and the like.  On 5lb tippet a size 14 unweighted PTN usually does the trick.
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: paulr on May 11, 2010, 05:31:55 PM
What do you use Mark?
cheers
Paul
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: haresear on May 11, 2010, 06:29:18 PM
Quoterarely use it for rivers always use it for lochs, i like the wee tub of dick walkers leeda sink it's a formula i think sticks well.

Same here.

Alex
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: east wind on May 11, 2010, 10:17:03 PM
Permasink, another product with Richard Walker's name on it. Nice consistency, quite expensive but i can live with that every couple of years.

http://www.farlows.co.uk/product/permasink
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: Fishtales on May 11, 2010, 10:58:00 PM
I've never bothered with sinkants, other than spit. Either run the leader through my mouth coating it liberally or some on my fingers and run it along its length. I suck my wet flies too if they refuse to sink :) Normally I have Muclin coating the line and it floats anyway usually from the last time I was out if I was surface fishing.

If a fly was floating down the stream on the end of a piece of grass or sedge do you think the fish are going to look at it and think 'OH! OH! That looks like a fly attached to a leader. I'm not going for that' ? I don't think so. They will just treat it as part of the flotsam and jetsum floating past them every day. The flash or splash is more likely to put them down.
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: trampas on May 24, 2010, 06:17:55 PM
grab a few blades of grass and rub up and down the leader,i did that and it works plus its free and eco pally
Title: Re: Degreasing Leaders
Post by: Part-time on May 25, 2010, 11:29:35 PM
Quote from: Alan on May 11, 2010, 10:34:56 PM
i keep saying this one and nobody notices but isnt fluorocarbon the answer to sinky tippet dreams? not used it since someone alerted me to the environmental impact but it sinks and its thinner than sinkant coated poly.

Using riverge fluro on lochs with dries the problem I've had is getting it to start sinking; it seems to get stuck in the surface tension much more than nylon no matter what I de-grease it with. No problem sinking once it breaks through the surface tension but it tended to sink a section at a time. I'm lazy when it comes to changing casts but found fluro frustrating enough that I had to change to nylon when switching from fishing wets to dries.

John