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Wild salmon and sea-trout in Scotland ...

Started by Sandison, April 21, 2016, 12:34:38 AM

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Sandison

The Wild Fisheries Review, chaired by Andrew Thin and carried out during 2014 was, according to Scotland's First Minister intended to, "Develop and promote a modern evidence-based management system for wild fisheries fit for purpose in the 21st century, and capable of responding to the changing environment; and to manage, conserve and develop our wild fisheries to maximise the sustainable benefit of Scotland's wild fish resource to the country as a whole and particularly to rural areas. All the statutory buzz-words are there: evidence-based, fit for purpose, conserve, environment, sustainable.

And, to me, they sound remarkably familiar. Lord Hunter addressed these same issues in his reports in 1963 and 1965; Sir David Nickson did so again, in 1997, with his Salmon Strategy Task Force. Indeed, the number of reports about the future and structure of salmon fishing in Scotland that have appeared over the past sixty years would comfortably fill a medium sized room. All have two things in common: (1) they are dust-covered; (2) their contents have been substantially ignored by successive governments, regardless of political persuasion.
The result of the Mr Thin's review has, however, prompted government intervention and involvement in the problems facing wild salmon (and sea-trout) populations today. But in the view of many, your correspondent included, government has stirred up a hornet's nest of alarm and dismay by appearing to use unnecessary force - a blanket ban on killing wild salmon in many Scottish rivers - that appears to be 'criminalising' anglers.

In the Hebrides, the Stornoway Angling Association alleges that government has seriously underestimated the strength of salmon stocks in the Western Isles. From my own experience, I tend to agree that the government's decision to ban the killing of salmon in some rivers might be open to challenge. For instance, in one river where the catch and release rate is barely 24%, no restriction has been placed upon killing wild salmon?

Loch Lomond anglers also object to the ban. The Loch Lomond Angling Improvement Association (LLAIA) claim that the ban was based upon flawed research, founded on rod catches for each fishery in the previous five years. LLAIA member, Dick Dickson, who has fished the loch for more than 50 years, said, "The only reliable scientific method of accurately calculating fish stocks is electronic fish counters strategically located on a river. It is very clear that the Government's figures are flawed. Put simply, they do not have a clue how many fish run into Loch Lomond and its tributaries."

However, in the North of Scotland, a campaign has been launched to ensure that Highland anglers practice catch and release on waters where the new ban on killing wild salmon is in place. Police officers and a network of local water bailiffs throughout the North will be on patrol to tackle those who fail to obey the new regulations, which came in to effect in April. Chris Conroy, Director of the Ness District Salmon Fishery Board said, "A major effort is going on to ensure the new conservation regulations are effectively implemented in affected salmon districts, which includes the Ness system. A heavy fine and a criminal record could await those who attempt to keep any salmon they have caught."

A glance at the maps (see above) might give a clue as to what may have stirred government to action. The first shows the areas - coloured in yellow - where killing wild salmon is banned and, in conjunction with the fish farm location map, whilst the second map shows the location fish farms. All of Scotland's largely foreign-owned open-cage factory fish farms operate in the West Highlands and Islands and the Scottish Government is committed to their expansion. Many anglers feel that disease and pollution from these industrial farms could have been implicated in the collapse of distinct populations of wild salmon and sea-trout in these areas and have campaigned relentlessly to have them removed from Scotland's coastal waters. Nor can there be any doubt that consumers and the public in general are being influenced by the information that protesters disseminate.

What better way of deflecting angler's attention away from the seeming never-ending rise and rise of factory fish farming, than to give them something else to worry about,  such as the new regulations now in place and the prospect of even greater government intervention in game fishing in the immediate future? I am probably wrong, but that is my honestly held and sincere belief. Factory salmon farming has brought enormous benefits: to shareholders who have invested in salmon farming companies; to fishery scientists who have made a career out of servicing the industry; to universities, who obtain grants to study various aspects of salmon farming; and to public relations organisations employed to encourage consumers to eat more farm salmon, and to portray the industry to the public in the best possible light.

But for Scotland's iconic wild salmon and sea-trout it has been a disaster; once famous fisheries are now but poor shadows of their former glory and more and more anglers are travelling overseas in search of sport; highland hotels that specialised in caring for anglers, such as the Loch Maree Hotel in Wester Ross, have closed their doors.  It is beyond my imagination to understand how any reasonable, sane, thinking person could have contemplated conducting a review of freshwater fisheries without taking into account the impact of factory salmon farming - yet that is exactly what government ordered Andrew Thin's 2014 review to do - exclude fish farming from their deliberations.

In the early years of the 19th century a group of friends used fish St Mary's Loch in the Scottish Borders from Tibbie Shiels Inn: John Gibson Lockhart, an Edinburgh lawyer, James Hogg, shepherd and poet, and John Wilson, FRS, MA (Fisherman Royal of Scotland, Master Angler), Professor of Moral Philosophy at Edinburgh University. They contributed to Blackwoods Magazine where Gibson Lockhart was harshly critical of the poetry of John Keats; describing some of his work as being "calm, settled, imperturbable drivelling idiocy."  Had they lived today, I wonder how these three would have reacted to the Scottish Governments current plans for the future of our well-loved art?




Bruce Sandison

rannoch raider

If it does all boil down to the pros and cons of fish farming V the pros and cons of removing fish farms and encouraging the growth of wild fish stocks then surely what is required is an in assessment of the economic value of continuing down each path ?
Those championing a policy which favours  environmental pros while ignoring the economic cons will win fewer votes than vice versa.
What is the position regarding jobs and financial benefits to our communities ? What brings in the cash and creates the jobs, fish farming or angling?
I realise that I'm probably being more than a little naïve here but this is something that needs to be examined and reported on in terms of indisputable facts and figures. I think that unless we get this done, there will be no point in haggling over what will be seen as minor environmental concerns V jobs.
Are wild salmon and sea trout worth more to the Scottish economy than fish farming? We need to know the answer to that question because no one will be interested in removing fish farms based on opinion and sentiment. Get the facts and fiction sorted for once and for all or there will be no moving forward.

Hill loch gold

It beggars belief how wild salmon and sea troot have been allowed to get to the point of almost extinction in some areas of the Highlands and Islands where these salmon farms operate. Surely the way forward has to be land based closed containment fish farms.

Wildfisher

I'm afraid that I now believe migratory fish in Scotland  are a lost cause. Clearly government do not take the subject seriously, with flawed reviews and a  laissez faire attitude to open cage salmon farming. Farmed salmon  are Scotland's single biggest food export and our own public buy masses of it because it is cheap. Cheap and nasty maybe, but it is cheap and people look at price first. Most people I know buy it - they are good, sensible, responsible people, but they buy it even when they are perfectly aware of the environmental damage it causes. It is a free country.

You won't find much sympathy for salmon fishing out there, it is seen as an elitist passtime for people with lots of disposable income - many anglers even believe that and it is hard to argue against when you look at the cost of a day's fishing on even moderately decent water. It is beyond the reach of most; yes you can get inexpensive salmon fishing, but it is inexpensive for a reason.

The vast majority of Scottish people have no stake whatsoever in salmon fishing and as long as that continues attitudes are unlikely to change.

For the ordinary angler the  proposed mass criminalisation of fishing and the transfer of draconian powers to landowners by the SNP is a far more serious issue, yet how many will even bother to respond to it?


fergie

To be totally honest im finding it hard to be concerned about the plight of salmon fisheries  of course its tragic that mans greed yet again is destroyed yet another habitat and with it the creatures who live in it.
But having been harrassed and in many ways bullied by salmon obsessed morons ( I know they arnt all like that) virtually since i first started angling as a kid i find it hard to give a shit.
My worry is that angling in general is being dragged down with them.

rannoch raider

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Quote from: Hill loch gold on April 21, 2016, 07:30:56 AM
It beggars belief how wild salmon and sea troot have been allowed to get to the point of almost extinction in some areas of the Highlands and Islands where these salmon farms operate. Surely the way forward has to be land based closed containment fish farms.

Yeah, regardless of what the country thinks of salmon angling it is wrong to push salmon and sea trout stocks into such decline. Some would say it's an environmental crime. There are certainly many more measures that could be taken to eradicate the damage these fish farms are doing but it seems these steps will cost money and reduce company profits. Obviously they are having none of that hence the denials, misinformation from alleged experts in the pay of the companies and of course squirming lawyers doing everything in their power to thwart any changes that would reduce profits.
The Scottish Government needs to have a very close look at the economic facts. Is it better to have half a dozen men employed maintaining the running of a fish farm or have the same men perhaps working in hotels, estates, shops, garages, ferries etc ?
It should be quite possible to co exist and get the best of both worlds but once again that would mean changes to current fish farming practices and that would affect profits. I understand that the companies running these farms know that as providers of employment, they are holding the aces and have threatened to close their farms if pushed too hard on environmental issues.
Perhaps our ministers should 'grow a pair' and allow them to do just that ?
It may sound silly but what's to stop Scotland encouraging responsible environmentally friendly fish farming developing in a way that allows wild fish stocks to flourish? If the profits to be had for the sale of farmed salmon are so worthwhile then why not make it a national industry and get some dosh in the bank for the people who live here?

Wildfisher

Quote from: fergie on April 21, 2016, 12:45:09 PM
But having been harassed and in many ways bullied by salmon obsessed morons ( I know they arnt all like that) virtually since i first started angling as a kid i find it hard to give a shit.

This is a very real, serious and divisive issue. Try getting  trout permit on The North Esk or The Dee. I have heard anglers say they wish salmon would disappear completely  because it might open up the rivers to more anglers.

I sometimes find myself thinking of just how blessed Clyde trout fishermen are to have the Falls of Clyde so far down the river.  If salmon were able to get above Lanark anglers certainly would not enjoy the freedom they have on one of Scotland's best and most accessible trout rivers.

The current threat of criminalisation is without doubt a result of incompetent Scottish politicians who are as thick as shit being lobbied by landowning / salmon owning interests  that are a lot smarter than they are. Under such threat why should ordinary anglers give a damn about salmon?

Bobfly

I have been forming an impression that lice problems, certainly back in the Norwegian owners' back yard, have been pushing quite hard in the closed-containment system direction. Husbandry costs are becoming too high and losses of stock too high and methods seem to be changing. How quickly our rivers can recover is another question. It may well be much faster than we might think.
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Mark

Quote from: fergie on April 21, 2016, 12:45:09 PM
To be totally honest im finding it hard to be concerned about the plight of salmon fisheries  of course its tragic that mans greed yet again is destroyed yet another habitat and with it the creatures who live in it.
But having been harrassed and in many ways bullied by salmon obsessed morons ( I know they arnt all like that) virtually since i first started angling as a kid i find it hard to give a shit.
My worry is that angling in general is being dragged down with them.

That sums it up for me. I love fishing but I find it hard to give a shit where salmon angling is concerned. Lack of fish but people are up in arms when they cant kill them :shock: The whole thing is a money making scam, complete with private toilets, huts, mown banks and dick heads looking after it.
As Negley Farson said in his 1940's book 'going fishing' in regard to Uist sea trout fishing....Its beautiful, but was one place in the world he has no wish to go back to, 'fishing as a business, it was too well organised'

Wildfisher

Money and greed divide and conquer everything.

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