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Title: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: Wildfisher on May 21, 2019, 12:59:52 PM
Out on the local loch this morning - two good fish lost due to Partridge fins wire barbless hooks straightening. 

To be fair I have not had this issue with their Klinkhamer  fine wire hooks, but these barbless hooks appear to have some issues with tempering. They are as soft as shit.  They will be fine for run of the mill Scottish bandy fishing, but I'd be careful about using them on big fish waters.

Fulling Mill barbleess seem to be more reliable - never had this issue.  As it is I was not too bothered as the fish had most likely have been rainbows. Would be a bummer if it happened with big  wild fish though.
Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: Robbie on May 21, 2019, 01:08:42 PM
Which hooks were you using?

Have always liked the look of the SLD but felt the wire was a bit on the light side. Noticed recently that there is now an SLD2 which uses a heavier wire, more like the Fulling Mill ultimate dry hooks.
Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: Lochan_load on May 21, 2019, 01:16:52 PM
Their emerger hooks are as soft as sh@t! Straightened 2 in a row and never used them since.
Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: rannoch raider on May 21, 2019, 01:41:56 PM
I think some of their patterns are a bit short in the point and I also like a bit of an upward curve on the points too. I don't like hooks that bend in the vice.
Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: Wildfisher on May 21, 2019, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: Robbie on May 21, 2019, 01:08:42 PM
Which hooks were you using?

Like these I think Robbie.

https://www.sportfish.co.uk/partridge-patriot-barbless-fine-dry-hook-sld.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsvmNy8Ws4gIVxIXVCh3GcwjBEAQYBCABEgIFgPD_BwE

Definitely  "Partridge Patriot" hooks
Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: burnie on May 21, 2019, 01:53:53 PM
http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/history-0
The company has been through a fair amount of changes, not sure if the hooks are still uk made anymore.
These look like the business
http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/products/trout/grub-emerger/klinkhamer-x-treme
Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: Robbie on May 21, 2019, 03:55:19 PM
Fred, that does look like quite thin wire. I believe these are more like the FM hooks:
https://www.sportfish.co.uk/partridge-surehold-lightening-dry-barbless-hooks.html?sqr=Sld& (https://www.sportfish.co.uk/partridge-surehold-lightening-dry-barbless-hooks.html?sqr=Sld&)


And these are even stronger:
http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/node/735 (http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/node/735)

However if you like the shape of the SUD hooks these might be worth a look:
http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/node/1277 (http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/node/1277)
Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: Lochan_load on May 21, 2019, 04:53:39 PM
These are the ones to avoid, in a sixteen the wire was so fine they just opened up when I hooked a fish. It was also rainbows fred so probably fish around the 2lb mark but surely they should be fit for that.
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Title: Re: Partridge Hooks - beware
Post by: Wildfisher on May 21, 2019, 05:21:58 PM
I have had big browns in NZ (4lb)  on Partridge Klinkhamer Extreme hooks - they are dead thin too but perhaps the tempering of the steel is different? I don't know, but it's interesting to read others have had similar issues