Cinnamon and Gold

[Black-Don]

Of the few recipes I could find for this fly, probably the most reliable specifies " speckled hen " for the wing. Can anyone advise the original recipe for this fly and which " speckled hen " feathers should be used or is it just any brown speckled hen ?

[Inchlaggan]

Taff Price has it as "Cinnnamon hen quill, or turkey in the larger sizes".

[Fishtales]

A Dictionary of Trout Flies by Courtney Williams gives the wing as Owl or Partridge. Stewart in 200 Trout Flies gives cinnamon or brown hen.

[garryh]

the partridge feathers are cinnamon quills found on the tail ,far better colour than the dyed duck quills that are used nowadays imho

Garry

[Fishtales]

This is what you are looking for Donald.

http://www.federn.org/Rebhuhn/Rebhuhn_Si_u_k.jpg

[Black-Don]

I think this is it PA



From your thread http://www.wildfisher.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14704.0

Nice looking flee. I have some which I bought a while ago but was wanting to tie a few myself.

the partridge feathers are cinnamon quills found on the tail ,far better colour than the dyed duck quills that are used nowadays imho

Garry

Are these just natural Partridge Garry ?

This is what you are looking for Donald.

http://www.federn.org/Rebhuhn/Rebhuhn_Si_u_k.jpg

Good source Sandy.

I'll have a rummage in the box tonight and see what I can find but I might have to use Turkey or  pheasant until I can source the correct feathers.

Cheers for all replies.

[garryh]

the partridge feathers are natural i think they are found under the main tail feathers.that looks like one in the link that fishtales posted earlier in the thread
Garry

[Black-Don]

Ordered some cinnamon quills from Steve Cooper at Cookshill 3.30 pm yesterday. ?1.25 for 10.

http://www.cookshill-flytying.co.uk/

2 packs and some other bit's arrived today.  :

[Black-Don]

Here's the result's of my C&G attempts.



Not too happy with the general consistency but I put that down to the fact I haven't tied anything since the start of last season  :roll: .

Regarding the wing and the cinnamon Partridge quills, I found difficulty getting any kind of consistency despite scrapping at least 2 flies. The feathers are quite soft and small making them difficult to work with.

A possible remedy is tying on smaller hooks, these are done on Kamasan no.10 B170's. I tried using Turkey feather's as has been recommended by a few folk but found these to be awfy large. Maybe I'm just seeking perfection when I should be happy with mediocrity,  .

Definately fishy looking flees though and I'm looking forward to using them.

[Fishtales]

If you are using folded slips for the wings then just make them a bit wider. If you are pairing slips from left and right feathers then do the same. When using turkey line up the length from the tail position using your right hand then swap to your left hand and tie in. Make sure there is enough soft feather on the edge of the feather and you aren't tying into the thicker part near the quill.

The flies look fine to me though. One or two of the wings are a bit thin that is all.